2/5 NLHE, full ring, Saturday night while WSOPc is in town

Hero: 500$, white, late 20s, sat down about an hour ago. Opened KK from EP and cbet took it down in one hand. also, was PFR and got c/r after I whiffed flop but cbet. no significant hands...possibly viewed as nitty but Ive just been getting easy folds PF.
V: about $1k, white, late 20s, has had a few drinks but not drunk at all, talkative at the table, probably seeing a few too many flops/turns, IMO. I can not recall any hands going to showdown, though...which sucks.

The Hand:
V opens UTG to 20$ (pretty standard for this table). Folds to hero one off the button with AQ, heads up.
The Flop: 868 (47$)
V checks, Hero bets 25. V calls. Hero is drawing to NFD and has other big outs, plus it looks like V can float (or at least has been in a few other hands), all while hero still has best hand.
The Turn: 868A (97$)
V checks, hero bets 50$. V minraises to 100$. First time I have seen him minraise... Hero?

Once I get a few comments I will give the rest of the action...

Weird. What is his UTG range? He reps insanely narrow (AA, 88, maybe 66?) but I'm not sure how he can have worse/bluffs. Maybe he plays AK like this as well?

It's cheap enough that we can call and evaluate river.

With no history ima stack off here if I flush.

You can do that by flatting here and you'll have an spr of 1 going into the river.

I think your flop and turn bets are too small though. $30-35 otf, 7/8 pot Ott.

I thought my sizing were fine otf and turn. Don't we WANT V to call here? We are so far ahead of tons of hands. If he did float, he is more likely to float to a half PSB otf versus 3/4...agree? And if he floated and missed the turn, a smaller flop bet typically would lead to a "smaller" turn bet from V (keeping our price lower to draw to hearts or overs).
What are your reason for betting bigger otf and turn?

I think bet sizes are OK. I'm calling turn and re-evaluating river. Without better reads, I don't think I can get away from the flush if it hits.

The min-raise is a little scary, though, because I can't imagine what he'd do this with that doesn't beat us? AK is about it. I just hope he thinks Hero is stabbing at pot and min-raises to "see where he is at."

I am tight, and if the flush hits river and he checks, I probably check behind. I can't imagine what worse hand he'd call with.

I think you will get called by worse.

^^^exactly.

So.....
Hero calls additional 50. River is 9 (247$)
Villain leads 150$. We are getting better than 2.5:1.
What is hero's action...
It's obvious we are not raising. Call or fold? Reasons? I feel like there are not too many hands we beat, but out hand is too good to fold...helpppp

I just don't like your turn bet at all. You just picked up a pair. What does your bet accomplish on this board. Why not just check behind and keep this pot small when a brick most likely falls on the river. He bets and you call or you bet call. Your bet on the turn opens up the action, have a plan of what to do if he raises. It sounds like you are just wishing you checked the turn. Now you have to call the turn with the plan of folding the river if the heart doesn't come.

Am I crazy for thinking this?

If you think he can be betting a worse A here, then its a definite call. If you had AK, its a snap call.

Given that V is the PFR from UTG, I just don't see how he has that many 8x hands in his range.

I almost certainly call, as played, and in real time, because I'ma calling station. But its close, and probably neutral call vs. fold.

Generally, if its close, I call.

(Super gross if he ended up with 99 here.)

Not just any old pair, toppest pair great kicker. If ur not betting TP2K w/nut flush draw wat are u betting? sure we could already be drawing close to dead needing an ace OTR but there are like an infinite amount of worse hands that can and will call a turn barrel here. IMO the bet doesnt need to "accomplish" more then us making money from it most of the time (although im guessing not this time)

OOP floats with intention to bluff are pretty rare IMO so when he calls flop im gonna put him on pocket pairs he's pot controling with if hes a solid player or some big cards if hes a chaser which from the limited read kinda seems mostlikely.

on the turn i think its a must bet and i liked the sizing but when he clicks it back on the turn its a bizarre line and one that looks super strong but were right up there in strength for this board so id have to call V atleast one time.

On river he can bet worse Aces but doesnt seem likely since we've stuck with him all this way.( had he been making loose or border line bad Value bets?) if he shows up with an 8 in EP it shouldnt be all that suprising since u said hes liking to see flops. I raise 89 suited in early position when the whole table is TAG which isnt a common table dynamic but its one ive scene so he might've been exploiting a table tendency with loose/tricky pre range. One thing to note is that if he's playing an 8 there he should also have other weird str8 and flush draw hands on that board so semi bluffs arent impossible but also pretty unlikey to have checked instead of just Cbet semi bluffing his draw. If he floppedtrip 8s or 6's full we should feel lucky he checked flop cuz im usually raising our hand on that board and likely stacking off on turn putting him on some type of over pair.

as played im prob gonna find a fold an loose a little sleep over it but it just feels like he flopped big and let us catch up a bit and the times that didnt happen hes got AQ or AK . heart hits im paying him off

results?

I fold the river. How can we ever be good here? It would have to be a really unusual spaz (maybe KJhh). I expect almost exclusively AA/AK/88/66.

Call turn raise (turn bet is standard). Fold river unimproved.

Fold river.

It really feels like Villain has AK here or monsters like 88/66 most of the time, so fold.

I called and V turned over 5d3d for bottom pair...yes, I'm a fish

Huh?

Not sure I like turn bet here either. We have A of hearts here so how many aces actually in his range? That seems like a card more likely to hit us than him. As played I cry/call, but I feel better about it checking turn because I feel like I've given him pop to bluff this river.

He was playing the board?!?

You're a posting fish.

6d3d...fat fingers

Call and evaluate river. I'm feeling in complete control ott

Lol never folding this hand in this board... Thread closed