Hero has JT in the bb
V1 - in mp1 no major reads, isn't playing super tight
500 effective
V1 makes it 25 from mp1 and folds to the sb
sb decides to call and hero decides to just call
flop
JxTx3
sb checks
hero checks
v1 also checks

I decided to check here because I'm not behind many hands and thought v1 would cbet, however he didn't.

turn 9

I felt like this was a pretty good turn card for hero, I now have the redraw to club flush and I still have top two, so I decide to lead out after sb checked

sb checks
hero bets 45

surprisingly, v1 decided to raise me to 105

sb folds and hero doesn't think too long before making the call - I'm still ahead of all over pairs but I also don't think overpairs check the flop. I also figured v1 doesn't have KQ because it is more likely he bets the flop with two overs and open ended

river Ax
hero checks
v1 bets 180

hero?

We beat Ax of clubs and block sets so I guess we call. Not a happy spot though.

I'd be all in on the turn only 500 deep.

River is a fold, wouldn't show or talked about it.

Since the raise was too small I think. This looks like a value raise and river value bet. All suited connectors and top two get there. I would fold. Whenever at these stakes a decision is between calling and folding I fold. I am also curious to hear other thoughts on this.

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87 would definitely play this way

I think I call here tbh not a great spot but yeah I call, I think the hand is WP tbh

Call hating my life, then obviously lose to a straight. Now, I do sometimes have nitty tendencies where I would just fold the river here (even though I would hate it). Players at 2/5 just don't take lines like this and not have the goods often though.

Jam turn? Your hand is pretty under repped here no?

I think this hand is well played.

If we assume V1 is opening fairly wide from MP1 then we can put 33, 99, 78s, and Axs in his range.

3 combos of 33, 3 combos of 99, and 2 combos of 78s (excluding clubs and Jx on flop), and . That's 10 value-betting combos that we lose to.

I only see 2 value combos that we beat, with those being J9s.

I just don't really see any bluffs that play the hand this way. As far as his Axc combos are concerned, I don't really see how he plays any of them this way. If he were to have AKc or AQc I think he would definitely bet this flop with the gutter, overcards, and backdoor draw. If he had a weaker Acs like A8c or A7c, then I don't really see him value betting the river.

I think this hand is definitely well-played. Can anyone else identify any reasonable bluffs that get to the river?

flat turn, call river i guess if he has KQ god bless him.

sikness would be too raise/fold turn here. THe better player I perceive him to be, the more id lean to raising turn, our delayed cbet is pretty fishy as well.

So I considered all the options and villain was a player that cbets when he hits the flop and thus I leaned villain away from KQ and considering the few combos of 87s I decided to call. Villain had 87o though :/

Does anyone like folding to the turn raise? We only beat bluffs and J9/T9.

You cannot fold the turn. There is $225 in the pot after V raises. It's $60 more to call. We have up to 13 outs if we are behind. We have direct odds to call.

Folding turn would be crazy, but river is a fold. He should have zero bluffs here after checking flop and we beat like zero value hands.

you don't see unknowns almost min-raise the turn when a straight gets there AND a player donks out without the nuts.

some players will check when they're OOP with an OESD so I wouldn't put too much into him not cbetting.

+1

Pretty tough spot between call and fold, but I think unless you think he's going to pick up in the next 30 minutes, you win often enough and can profit off information gained enough to find a call here (not a fist-pump call). The thing is, he can't have two pair AND have had a flush draw on the turn (because we block AcTc and AcJc).

The most important part imo is if you call, take note of what he showed up with:
-did he check a monster hand on that wet flop? if so play wider range vs. him, exploit that you get a lot of free cards, and expect c-bets to be weaker hands on average.
-did he check back a great semi-bluff spot w/ KQ on that flop? if so, play tighter range vs. him, expect c-bets to be stronger hands on average and less draws.
-did he get there on the river? if so his turn bet was probably just to "see where he was at" with a hand like AT and you can comfortably play back by jamming the turn when you're so strong with redraws next time he puts in a baby raise like this.
-did you catch him bluffing? Probably the most dangerous player of the four, but clearly you need to adjust your play to call a little lighter against him and try to play more pots in position against him.

Obviously it's better to gain this type of information on someone else's dime, but if have to you make a marginal call, shrug it off and get your money's worth later on.

ETA - just saw results- tough run out but at least you know what that turn minraise means now. Important thing is exploit him and get it back.