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2/5 Crazy multi-way pot developing 300BB deep with a bunch of interesting characters 2/5 Crazy multi-way pot developing 300BB deep with a bunch of interesting characters

10-07-2016 , 12:42 PM
Yesterday at MDLive! ~930am

V1: ($800) Stereotypical middle-aged lady - very cautious, plays pretty much hands-face up. Tight-passive. Bet sizing proportionate to the hand strength.

V2: ($600) Middle-aged man - Knows and talks a lot abut the math at the table. But mostly playing tight-passive and looks like is there for a good time, and wont mind winning some money. But mostly does not want to lose it. Risk-averse.

V3: Crazy player ($1500)- Been drinking all night. Aggressive. His signature move is raise any drawy flop and shove any turn. Because he is 300BB deep and most of the rest of the table is not, rest of the table is playing scared money. Once when another guy hero called him down w top pair, this guy had trips, whch keeps the table scared. However he has showed 3-4 bluffs (ie missed flush draws)


Hero ($1500) - 40ish Indian guy. Only other player in the table 300BB deep, mostly tight - but using image to occasionally raising from LP and taking pots down with a CB or two. Lot of history with V3, but not with the rest of the table, who have just joined the table. Hero and V3 playing all night, so V3 knows hero is capable, but most of the rest of the table does not.


Hand
V1 lipms from EP, V2 limps behind, V3 limps behind, hero limps in the button with 56

Flop ($27) 526

V1 bets $30 pretty quickly, V2 calls in flow, V3 thinks for 5 seconds and makes it $100.

Hero?

Whatever you recommend, please add why.
(I will post turn action later after hearing your responses here)
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10-07-2016 , 01:32 PM
I think you have to just call, the reason is you have the button and can expect the first two villains to flat the $100, plus you prefer seeing a safe no spade turn and know villain will blast off with missed flush draws which his raise can imply. You could raise to $350 but I'm afraid you aren't in amazing shape vs a range of flush draws 34xx and sets. You have position, use it to control the pot. The only scare cards are probably spades and 9x so I would much prefer just peeling and playing the turn for stacks. There's likely going to be $400 in the pot and since it is a limped pot there's no reason at lease one player does not currently has the nuts (34).
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10-07-2016 , 01:36 PM
call and fold to V1 if she re-jams
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10-07-2016 , 01:48 PM
Call - nothing to get excited about just yet.
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10-07-2016 , 01:50 PM
easy call, use position on later streets, you are ahead of their betting, calling and raising ranges, but not of their gii ranges
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10-07-2016 , 02:04 PM
tbh pre can be a fold unless you are good at folding post

Given the read on V3...why in god's name would we blow him off a big turn bet with a raise here?
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10-07-2016 , 05:04 PM
Think a call is standard.

Looks like V1 has an over pair and wanted to take it down with > PSB. V2 could have an over pair as well draws. V3 range much wider given history.

We have blockers to sets. Let's keep V3 in and play position.
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10-07-2016 , 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by samo
Think a call is standard.

Looks like V1 has an over pair and wanted to take it down with > PSB. V2 could have an over pair as well draws. V3 range much wider given history.

We have blockers to sets. Let's keep V3 in and play position.
This.

Also, if a bad turn card falls, much easier to get away... 9x.

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10-10-2016 , 02:26 AM
tough hand. V1 is ranged heavily to overpairs and V2 is ranged heavily to flush draws, but what we care about is V3.

I would range V3 on some kind of combo draw, like 78spades. or 89 spades.

with two flush draws very probable, we could easily just flat here, see who comes along, and then if the turn bricks, drop the hammer and just take down the pot right there.

or

we could make it 300 on the flop, fold out V1 and V2, and then see what V3 wants to do. He is not gonna fold. He is much more likely to call, but if he does have the 78spades, he could push, and then we would be flipping for 3k.

I think it is best to just flat and plan to bomb the turn on any brick. We could play this more aggressively, but since we have position, we have a huge advantage to see what everyone does on the turn.

If we were OOP, I would probably play for stacks.
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