Playing 2/5 live we have $1500 and V has $1000. V is average 50 year old weekend regular.

2 limps, Hero limps ATss, 1 limp, V (btn) limps, sb completes, bb check.

Flop 9d6c4s - checks around to V bets 40 into 35, folds to us.

Obviously we don't have enough equity to call at that sizing vs any pair+ but thoughts on V's range given action and merrits of calling oop to move him off a pair on turns that don't improve us?




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He just bet more than pot in a 7 way pot. Why would we ever consider calling here?

Also, I'm definitely raising pre-flop.

I'm not sure haha. Thats what I want to hear input on. I know its not standard to float with this little equity vs his apparent betting range - but it just feels like that a pot sized bet into 6 people who all limped pre and all checked to him is 1 pair or small sd's way more often than sets/2p (he really shouldnt have 99 or overs). Why would he ever bet 2p+ like that? Everyone is showing extreme weakness and disinterest in the pot, if he wanted a call why over psb?

My plan was float and lead any turn over/A/T or spade. But if thats horrible, please, tell me lol. Just thought that was curious sizing given the action and thought it may be a spot that we can get creative/aggressive


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I would PSB or overbet into a limped pots with the nuts/strong hands

Why? It's terrible, pick a better spot

I don't understand why we're not raising ATs vs 2 limpers.

I also have no idea why we're trying to act slick by floating a terrible spot.

There can't be a whole lot worse spots to get fancy play syndrome.

Raise pf. My guess is that the villain has a TPWK type of hand and wants to end it now. He's not going to fold to your raise if you decide to float, so this is an easy fold on the flop.

I agree, but I also think the V has some flopped sets and 2-pairs in his range. I often see this type of player try to end it with big hands too, because they're afraid to be put into a tough spot if a scare card comes.

Which of course strengthens your point that the hero has little fold equity.

Just fold. He bet big into 6 people and we basically are drawing to overcards that might be dead. You're OOP so won't get any more info on him on the turn before you have to make a move. It also looks like there's still another player to act so you might not even get head's up, or he could check/raise and blow you out of the hand.

Really need more information on villain's play. If villain will over bet air to take down unclaimed pots then OK, floating here some of the time is workable. If villain more likely has a weak pair and just wants to end the hand then floating might be workable if villain can be scared off the turn a lot. If villain can be betting a strong hand here because there are so many possible straight draws he wants to charge or get to fold then sticking around isn't worth it. If villain can be semi-bluffing with a draw it won't be worth it either because you won't have any idea which turn cards you can bet him off and a ten could be dirty.

Against a generic it's a fold and even against an aggressive bluffer this won't be worth it very often. Against an aggressive bluffer it's better to wait to you have a made hand or good draw to get involved.

His range could be wide, limping on BTN and making > PSB after table showed weakness. Fold nevertheless, as his aggression is rewarded. Next time, u can be the aggressor with two overs and BD draws.

I would have raised pre.

Raise pre, as played fold. Next hand.

Almost certainly a raise pre. I don't mind an overlimp if you expect a bunch of calls when you raise or if LP players frequently 3bet.

This is a terrible flop to float oop. It's low and disconnected. You don't rep much. You limped and missed. Time to fold. Next hand

Yup, all makes sense. Obv not a good fundamental play to float, just wanted to see if there was any merrit to it because of a read based on his bet sizing vs all the weakness displayed.

Turn was Ad went bet call. River Js we x he x back and we were good.

Thanks everyone


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