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/5 200bb top set... trap? /5 200bb top set... trap?

05-27-2017 , 06:33 PM
Given the read we have on the PFR and also the read we have on the BTN, I'm not inclined to 3 bet preflop here. I'm not sure we need to just set mine here, we can see what develops post, but I would like the button in if possible, whether we hit our set or not.
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05-27-2017 , 06:46 PM
Preflop and flop are both fine. You could go either way preflop, between 3 betting and flatting. I think calling flop is best. Get it in on the turn, there are a lot of worse sets, 2 pairs, and possibly some poorly played one pair hands in villain's range.
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05-27-2017 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick71491
Do we ever consider 3 betting this hand pre? If not, are we playing this as more of a "set mining" situation where we X/F most flops if any overs come? Or is our hand strong enough that we can call at least 1 street if the flop comes like K82ss? Assuming we have little reads (say we just sat down at the table).
Yes definitely consider 3 bet pre and open to more discussion on that. Chose to flat vs a fairly tight UTG open.


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Originally Posted by Tucco
Preflop and flop are both fine. You could go either way preflop, between 3 betting and flatting. I think calling flop is best. Get it in on the turn, there are a lot of worse sets, 2 pairs, and possibly some poorly played one pair hands in villain's range.
I'm not sure this is ever 1 pair unless it's a hand like J9. We have to consider that we double block the likeliest two pairs.... not saying that I should fold here but saying we can't act like there are a ton of two pairs and sets. He raises sets a decent amount on flop
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05-27-2017 , 07:48 PM
Gii turn, sorry he had JJ
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05-27-2017 , 08:13 PM
People are either confused or misguided because villain who raised me never has JJ here. Or very very rarely. Was not pfr
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05-27-2017 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
Why are we raising flop when we double block tp?
Because UTG has an overpair here a ton.

I'd raise flop a small amount and GII on the turn. Would rather just go for UTGs stack when the board isn't scary.
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05-28-2017 , 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jc315
People are either confused or misguided because villain who raised me never has JJ here. Or very very rarely. Was not pfr
and yet they are will to tout their (wrong) opinions to no end.

results please?
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05-28-2017 , 03:34 AM
Stopped reading after you didn't raise flop vs a rec player who limps a lot yet opened and has a tight strong range.
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05-28-2017 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
Stopped reading after you didn't raise flop vs a rec player who limps a lot yet opened and has a tight strong range.
Nice

Spoiler:

Hero goes in tank and decides I haz set and flatted flop. Can't fold. Hero jams

Villain thinks for 10 seconds and calls.

River brick. Hero shows, villain slowly rolls over... Q9o

Dealer counts chips and says I owe $920. Hero says how when he raised $400 on turn and had two stacks of $100 behind.

Turns out villain had 3 $100 chips on the left of his stack. Hero was on his right in a spot where he couldn't see the $100 chips.

Lol fml
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05-29-2017 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
we are repping 97 here. he is not coming over the top of us with anything less than a straight.

So, we have to call 250 to win 1450. which is a profitable price for these stack sizes. So, yes, calling is the right play. But then are we folding on the river if we don't boat? We will be getting 6:1
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Lol okay, since you say so.

We are not "repping" one particular hand, we can have several hands in this spot like J10 for top two as an example off the bat. Its not about what you feel we "are repping" (freaking online words that is not very relevant at LLSNL), its about how we range our villains and if we get the right price to stackoff with our set.

And also, its crazy without further information/reads on villain to be so sure thats gambooly asians raising range is only straights here.
yes. I say so.

you still don't get it.

It is what the gambly asian (racist) thinks that we are betting with on the turn. not what he is going to do in a vacuum, but what he specifically will do in response to H's bet. it was blazing it giant neon red letters.
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