i was sitting with a stack of about 1k and doing pretty good at showfown so my image was prolly a tight one as none of my bluffs got looked up.

villain 1 stack ~300 decent player hasnt really got out of line much and is basically playing abc standard poker.

villain 2 donk he raised 15 earlier in the cutoff with kj i squeezed outta the blinds with like k4 he called flop came A high i won he folded face up only hand ive played against him but hes splashing around in way too mAny pots

hero dealt 99 on the button
villain 1 raises 15 utg+1
villain 2 calls
hero calls. i contemplated 3 betting ut i didnt feel it was profitable in this hand cuz of villain 1s tighter opening range.

flop 666
villain 1 bets 20
villain 2 calls
hero calls
turn 2
villain 1 bets 25
villain 2 folds
hero?

Call? There's not much 6x in this V's UTG+1 opening range, so you're slightly ahead of his any pp range, and crush his AK might be good range. You could raise/fold, but there's not much value in it, and he will likely bet again OTR. Just let him value-town you/himself imo and keep pot in control.

I also just setmine preflop.

We didn't hit our set. A tight, standard, ABC player, OOP, has just bet into two players. We're ahead of, like, 88. If he's doing this with AK, good for him.

FWIW, if we're constantly turning our setmining hands into something other by calling flop bets here and there, plus contemplating calling turn bets (including OOP in another recent thread by someone else), I'm not sure 20x implied odds preflop is going to be even remotely enough to breakeven on these hands.

I doubt I get to the turn, but I still don't see why we're calling along. This is bleeding money against this guy, IMO.

GcluelessNLnoobG

I'm not so sure about his GG. I mean, does that betsizing look super weak to you, or are you assuming he's trapping with a premium? I think calling is fine given what's in the pot. I don't think 99 is just a set mining hand.

ETA: Let's assume right now AK is the only hand we're beating, and Villains EP raising range is TT+, AK. Versus that range we have 32% equity and we're being offered 4.4:1 by the pot.

Yeah, I'm not set-mining only when I call with 88-TT in position, I'm also playing those as value hands that I'm not comfortable 3-betting.

Grunching ...

Call. Light betting could be AK, AQ and/or an illogical fear of V2 having 6x. Raising may fold TT but that is about it. You are a substantial fav to over cards and only need to fade one more street.

River - call any non-A/K/Q; check back anything but a 9.

So we're thinking this ABC guy is continuing to weakly barrel multiple streets to bluff us off our pair? Do ABC guys attempt to bluff guys off hands by betting $25 into $90? My guess he's concerned we might have a 6 or a bigger pocket pair and doesn't want to lose his shirt, meanwhile still getting some small value over 3 streets if he is ahead.

I'd feel more comfortable calling down with QQ cuz then at least we're ahead of some more hands we beat (JJ-99). Do straightforward ABC guys that don't get out of line even raise 88 in EP?

I know we're getting a good price, but it's seems kinda meh to me.

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Pre - good. No need to 3-bet vs. v1's likely AQ+/10+ range.

Flop - probably good. Betsizing is very weak. I think you can discount QQ-TT as he would be betting more to protect his hand. It would help to know V1's betsizing habits. Does he bet weak hands small? Could he bluff small?

I am inclined to think he has AQ+. He may think that his big ace is good and if not he has implied odds to see the turn w/ two clean overs. Getting to the next card is cheap for hero too, so call. Bet/folding is okay too, but you may be value owning yourself unless you keep it very small.

Turn - V1's super weak bet into two villain smells like a blocker. Bet/fold up to $85. Fold if villain donks the river. If he is playing me, then give him credit for being clever.

thats burning money basically turning my hand into a bluff and its too strong for that 88 and 77 might call but 10+ will almost always call

Due to small bet call and evaluate river.

How often you play at Bike?

Whats he's preflop raising range....if it not 77-99 or 22-99 you can discount the low pairs.

He bets 20 into 45 pot with players, it gets called...if the caller was not a donk I might think about folding but a flop calls fine here...

He then bets...25 into 105 pot with two callers on the flop....I don't see somebody doing this with AK...so that leave tt+ or 77+....I would not worry about the triple barrel...

You have to be good 20% of the time...against the 77+ range your good 33% of the time so its a call....if you think its only TT+ pre flop...I would fold...

the key to the hand is that he continues to bet into two flop callers....I don't think most ABC do that without a reasonable hand...though the bet sizing is so small it gets tempting...

whenever i can get down there to play. so a few times a month

I ended up calling the small bet on the turn and the river came a 10

so teh board was 666210
villain bet 15 on the river

You have him beat almost always. Min raise (or the largest amount he will call with 55/AK, we're not doing it for him to spaz, because he won't).

I definitely would not raise but would always call. You only have to be right about one in every ten times in order for this call to be profitable on the river. Players at 2/3 do silly things and especially so at the Bike.