Very loose, passive $1/2 game ($65 preflop all-in between V's gets cold called w/10d5d). I had 9c7c on 953J8 run and fired and got called for 3 streets and MHIG. Should make a fortune in this line up.

H has been active. $280 to start. Get 5 limpers around, find QsQc in the small blind. Raise to $26 to attempt to isolate. UTG, MP, MP +1and BTN all call.

Flop ($120ish)
Js10d4c.

hero?
UTG ($203) is the guy who turned set of J's to my Q's over pair. I called his hand, folded and he showed it. Only plays better hands. No real concept of relative hand strength, position, etc.

MP ($200 ish ) horrible player. Called a 3b AI earlier with 10 5. Doesn't appear to know fold is an option.

MP+1 (not sure, not relevant ).

BTN ($225) avg reg. tilting because of MP's play. Clearly gunning for MP.

Obviously I would have liked to thin the heard more than this.

OOP but with initiative, what ' s my move? I'm a little out of sorts because I almost never get 5-ways with a premium hand and I'm a bit lost on what ranges limp for $2 then call the 13x raise. Whatever that range is, J10x likely catches part of it.

Am betting about 80 here then jamming a lot of turns, i dont mind the flop too much but if called you have to expect to get outdrawn.
If you get your money in good on the turn that is allyoi can really hope for


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65. Shove any non A/J turn.

Why just 65?

65/fold or 65/call?

This is an extract value situation. if you bet $60-100, you gotta call a ship even though youre behind their range. I think jamming flop is perfectly fine as well, as is CRAI, although thats probably the weakest option.

I am not really a fan of the of the check raise in this situtation.
The reads on the game are that it is a loose passive game so hoping that one of them starts betting just seems like a wasted opportunity of extracting value; were betting at the price hero sets you know you can get stacks in ( if you want too depending on board run out)
Jamming the flop isnt that great either as you are really only targetting the strong Jx hands I think that if we bet for value on flop, turn and river (depending on our sizing) we might get called down form a lot worst for at least 2 streets maybe 3.



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Because I like when the bad guys put money in behind instead of folding.
You have to remember we're not deep, we're blocking all major draws, and we're stacking off 90% of turns.

Whatever you do, don't fold.

Shove is fine. CRAI is fine, as long as you think that someone will bet. $80 or whatever is also fine.

I probably just jam. If I had AK, then I would shove this flop, too.

OK, thanks every one. Hero played this basically as everyone suggested, just wanted to make sure it was making sense.

Hero bet $77, got called by MP and BTN. My plan that while there really aren't any good turns for me there really aren't any bad turns either. Any turn 9 or lower is getting an automatic AI, any turn above a 9 and I'll have to think for a minute. Best possible turn for me would be a 4. Never hurts me and it counterfeits J10. When the both flat I put both V's in the AJ/KJ/KQ/J10/JJ/1010 range with some AK.

Turn $350
8s

Hero has $176 behind - left my self an awkward stack here on the turn. As everyone suggested I view the 8 as a pretty goo card for me. Q9, 97 and 88 got there. 88 could have limp called pre but never should have called the $77 on the flop. 97 should have called pre or post flop. Q9 I guess is a possibility but I wouldn't have limp called pre and if I chose to continue with an OESD I think you have to cram on the flop to maximize FE, so I discount this as well. If I am up against a set (unlikely with no RR on flop on drawy board 3-ways) then I just tripled my river outs.

Hero shoves for $176. Thoughts? I should be repping just about exactly what I have, either an over pair or a set. I can also see a case where I get called by AJ/KJ thinking that H is getting sticky w/ AK/AQ.

Pretty decent card but dont really expect see any folds from the draws as most now will have pair+draw.
While i do expect a call i think that you will be ahead nore often than not and if the worst comes to worst you still do have some outs

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Right, and w/ QQ I block half the Q9's, that would have me in a bad spot.

SPOILER - MP called w/ Q9h and was already there. BTN went in the tank and folded 89o after talking himself into both H and MP having AK(?). Just wanted feedback on 1) should I have had more Q9 in MP's range (obviously yes, I guess) and 2) going for thin value looks a bit like spew when caught, want to make sure i'm not confusing one for another. I didn't stack off here "because I have Q's", I think it was a reasonable line but I also don't want to justify my being a donk just to make myself feel better.

Also, also, I think limping UTG w/Q9h then calling 12x more BB's from the SB with 4 more limpers behind to act is a play I'll never make in entire poker career.

Cant be too result focused,yeah you will get caught drawing very thin sometimes.
As for the guy calling with Q9s utg and getting lucky hitti g the straight on you just think of the time the turn bricks and he pays you off chasing

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