There are 2 other villains on the hand.


Villain 1: $300

Villain 2: $450

Hero: $395



Villain raises to $12 EP. I 3bet to $35. Villain 2 thought for a while and called in the BB. Villain 1 calls.


Here... I put villain 1 on something like JJ/QQ and AQ/AK. Of course he could have KK but chances are rare. Villain 2 i put him on high cards.


Flop comes Kc 6c 6d


Great flop for me. Pot size is $100.


Both check. I bet $65. Villain 1 folds. Villain 2 thought for a while and called.


Here... I put him on flush draw, King and small percentage some type of 6 like 76 or 56.


Turn comes 8h.


He checks. I check.


Pot size is $230. I have $295 left. He covers. I wanted to bet here but the thing was at this point, I didn't want to shove and then if he calls... well he got the 6 and i'm basically drawing to a 2 outer or even dead if he had quad 6s. Normally i bet here but the few previous sessions i played.... I have been overplaying my hands a ton such as overpair against sets and valuetowning myself so much. The thing was i was risking it by giving a free card if he had something like a flush draw which i thought he has. I normally bet this everytime but I told myself well i just sat down and have no clue about this guy so I check here and not going to overplay it. The problem though is due to SPR....i basically have like 4 for it. And an spr of 4 is okay to stack off to average player. Someone here told me dont look a spr much but problem here is i had no clue if he was a tight or loose player.


River comes Qd.


Final Board is

Kc 6c 6c 8h Qd.


Villain leads $100 into $230. I have $295 left.


I call. Villain turns over K10d.


When he bet this river... i was really confused at why he would bet it. The reason is when i check the turn... i mean... theres a good chance i had QQ and made my boat on the river since i cant be checking king. I don't think he would put me on AA or AK so his bet made not much sense to me. Like if i was him and i had K10d.... I would probably check the river because QQ got there.


I didn't like the Queen because KQ got there if thats what he had. And of course he could have quads or a6, 76 or 56 so i decided to call.


What i later found out at this table was this guy was incredibly loose. He rarely folds on the flop or turn if he flops any type of pair. So had i seen him play this much earlier... I would have easily bet the turn against him.


The thing was i was comparing my stack and it was $290 and $230 on the turn. If i bet here... how much should i bet. I thought $140 was good because i'm not giving him odds for flush draw. Problem here is if i bet $140 here... aren't i committing myself if i get c/r all in since i have only $150 left? Would it be better to just shove on the turn and overbet it due to the awkward stack sizes? Because if i bet $140 and he calls.... pot would be $510 on river and i have $150 left so if the flush card comes... then i have to call right?


Now looking at this situation had i seen him play this loose... i would have bet like $80 or $85 on the flop and then get it in on the turn when its $270 and i have $280 left for a pot size bet. A hand i later played against him i bet huge on the turn because i wanted to get stacks in but he folded.

We need read on all players, including yourself, and including results is going to cause results-biased posts.

That being said you should be betting this turn. How many 6x hands are really cold calling a 3-bet? Even if he is, his range is so wide that is also includes Kx and tons of club draws and probably even JJ-22.

I would not consider getting it in on the then against this villain over-playing your hand.

Hi. I just arrived at the table so there are no reads at all. I mentioned this in my post.


The read on him later on after i played for a bit was he was very loose. My image was very very aggressive. I raised preflop and cbet a huge percentage of time. But again... this was after playing for a bit after this happened.

Jesus bet/stackoff turn this is one of the easiest hands I've seen you post. You really ****ed yourself by checking turn. Nothing worse is calling a raise otr now.

Also we need more reads.

Think about how much of VILLAIN's opening range is 6x and how much of that calls a 3bet???

The answer is very little. Image plays a bit of a role since if you're a super nit old guy then it's hard to get value from worse Kx after 3bet+cbet+turn-brrl... Otherwise it's an easy bet for value OTT.


Its really funny because you become super unbalanced if you don't bet turn and good players pick up on this pretty fast. As in... When you 3b AK you will cbet K66 then chk back turn... But if you have like AQ/light3b you will cbet AND 2brrl turn. So your turn betting range 200bb deep in 3bet pots becomes really polarized (especially if you even chk back AA there) - polarized to bluffs and like KK's full. Polarized ranges are generally really easy to play against if you're decent.... Long story short - bet turn is optimal, and yeah you will get calls from worse.

Again... i just arrived at the table. I had no reads. This was pretty much like the 1st hand i played and probably like the 2nd hand that i saw at this table.


This was 1/3nl... not 1/2nl so it was 4x not 6x. The thing is this. I didn't care if this guy was a loose player or an old man nit. I would have 3bet this to 35 even if he was super old nit. Because if he has AA or KK... well he will reraise my raise. I do not like flatting raises with AK. I almost always reraise AK preflop.


I wasn't 200bb deep. I was about 130bb deep.


I had no clue why in the world he would bet 100 into 230 on the river because it looked a lot like i had QQ in this hand if i was him and then the Q came on the river. If i had AQ in this hand... i would probably check the turn and not barrel. Now if i had AcQc.... i would have barrelled the turn. Do you like my line here if i had AQ and AcQc here?


Again, i had no reads on this guy. Had this hand happened like 30 minutes or 1 hour later, i would have easily bet the turn after seeing how this guy played. This guy rarely folded preflop. He always wanted to see the flop and rarely folded the flop to a bet. The thing was when i first arrived, i had no clue if he was tight or loose player. When i first saw him though... he looked like he was a solid player... only for me to find out he was no where near that.