Hero sat at table about 2 orbits ago against unknowns. I've been active & chipped up from 300 to 420 in 3 hands raising aggressively post-flop (no showdowns), so I may have a good rep or be seen as a maniac, who knows.

Villian - I've seen him play one hand, he raised UTG to 17, was 3bet to 75 by SB, and 4bet shoved 300 w/ AA versus KK to double up.

OTTH:
V (MP, ~600) - raises to 17
HJ (~300) - calls
Hero (SB, ~420) - decides to just call w/ 9c9h, seems like a good spot to set mine

Flop (~54) - 9s3h4c
Hero - I usually don't slowplay sets....but this board is so dry...so I check
V - bets 50
HJ - folds
Hero - calls 50

Again, such a dry board and he seems to like his overpair. I feel like a raise here would get some folds. Thoughts?

Turn (~154) - 3d

Hero - Meh turn, but he still probably thinks his overpair is good, so I check again...
V - bets 150
Hero - raises all in

Thoughts on flop & turn play? Should I have donked on either street?

OTT we only have 200 left after calling and the pot would be 450. i think CRAI is fine OTT. WP

Seems like a fantastic turn card for you, no? It looks like a very safe card for villain, if his aces were good on the flop, he still thinks they are good on the turn.

Everything you did seems standard and correct.

Yeah, I'm just setmining. It's not exactly an awesome spot as we're only getting ~2:1 preflop which means we need to make up about ~6 bets postflop, so will typically need a 3rd bet to go in postflop before we make any money, which might be hard to do OOP. But hopefully this guy has a tight EP raising range and has a hand worth losing some money over (or perhaps we can win some off the other guy).

SPR is about 7.5 so we can pretty easily get in stacks by the river with three 3/4 PSBs. I think we could just bet/bet/bet ourselves, or in our position we could just check, let raiser cbet, and perhaps get other guy to call, where we could probably just call on this drawless board and then donk turn. A lotta opponents will cbet just 3ways, so I think I'd lean to the latter, but neither is horrible, imo.

Totally cool with how we got to the turn. I would now typically donk a 3/4 PSB cuz I don't want him to check behind. His flop bet sizing was really poor (way too large), so we don't have to bet that large, almost just sizing it like a blocking bet as if we were trying to rep the 3 but really just have a ~TP that we're looking to showdown cheap. I would just go $90 which will setup a fairly easy river shove (if he doesn't overplay his hand and shove over top).

I don't like checking the turn (him checking behind sucks). Also, his bet sizing is so lol horrible as he's bombing for PSBs, so he's doing all our work for us. A check/raise is just so nutted at this level and scary, so I think I just flat as played. It'll leave us with a shrug shove of < 1/2 PSB for the river. We do risk scare cards (such as an A coming vs KK, or a 9 which it looks like we have). And this guy is obviously clueless with his betsizing so maybe he does sigh call off a check/raise. But I prefer shoving the river.

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its fine. i mean i guess we can just call turn but i turn is so much better. NH

Call flop, check/raise turn. This is totally standard play with a set. It is standard for a good reason, it's usually the most profitable.

There are ways of mixing it up but on such a dry board they usually don't make you any more money. The more aggressive options let villain fold his air and you want HJ to stick around for at least one bet. More passive forces you to lead river because villain is likely to check behind and the extra card is more likely to get him to fold then call.

So I'm the only one who doesn't like the turn check? The only aggression this Villain has shown so far was 4betting preflop with AA. We really think he's double barrelling air enough, or even barrelling a made hand enough on this bone dry board? I hate letting him off the hook for stacks when he actually has a hand, plus enabling him make hero folds to a strong looking check/raise.

Gsurprisedeveryonethinksthislineis"standard",tbhG

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its a dry board and 3 should be a blank..thats my reason.

Most villains go for value with an overpair, if he doesn't have that he's not calling a donk anyway. So check and let him bluff/value bet.

Thinking about this again, it really was an unusual spot with villain betting so hard, I guess I thought it was a spot where I thought I could c/r and he would never fold, but "too strong it was" (he folded). Dammit, that turn c/r play is too strong for even the worst players. Against this strong of a bettor maybe I should have just check/called, donked river 1/2 pot or something.

Hand is fine imo.

Raising the flop can be good to if we've been raising a lot post flop already since 'we can't always have it'.


As far as the turn check, V should have mostly over pairs here given his preflop/postflop sizing, so this turn card is great for him. It's a blank so he never worries about draws getting there, reduces set combos, and counterfits some of our two pair hands. I would expect him to check behind on the turn about never.

I'm good with the turn check raise.