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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
The crazy thing about live poker is that one can play a LAG style and still be one of the tightest players on a lot of tables.
This is so true. My VPIP/PFR is like 27/25, yet I'm often somehow perceived as a nit. I've been called "the most conservative player at the table" lol. I just silently nod and keep barreling these guys while they think I've got the nuts.
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
At least I've made clear arguments for why I fear raising here ain't necessarily a great idea (low SPR that commits us with very mediocre TP, often folds out hands we dominate / limits to hands that dominate us, little FE preflop with loose Button who sounds like he's trying to outplay us in position, etc.).
What are you arguments, other than nit=bad?
Galso,nitcouldeasilybethemostoptimumlinetobeatlows takes/smallstacks/highrakegames,imoG
Nit could easily be the most optimum line?
Bad nit! BAD! Shoo!
Seriously though I do empathize with you in that people should not be shouting as much "quit poker if you do x" kind of things, but on the other hand I understand where they're coming from. Nitty thought is ridiculously pervasive in the LLSNL forums. There's a thread going right now where OP and many other posters want to dump suited connectors from every position. Not just stop raising them, dump them completely. You see that kind of thing over and over and it's tilting.
There's no way nitty play is optimal, and I shouldn't have to waste time arguing why every other thread, though I often do. 1/2 fish play way too many hands. They have to get rid of these hands somehow or become calling stations. Most of them get rid of these hands by folding at some point. If you can't find good bluffing spots, quit poker! JK, but you should be able to find good bluffing spots in all but the wildest games. And even in crazy wild games, the most optimal strategy is not to nit it up and setmine but to widen your value ranges because if these guys are playing VPIP 80%, KJ is pretty good when nobody's raised.
Just ask yourself--are the biggest winners at any level nits?
And even if we can construct some theoretical game with high enough rake and tough enough opponents that nitting it up is the best strategy, it's a pretty weak argument. If your goal is ever to move up, you're better off ignoring the rake and playing a strategy that won't get you crushed when you move up.
Last edited by Shai Hulud; 08-22-2017 at 06:30 PM.