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Old 06-28-2012, 02:50 PM   #1
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1/3 NL river

Only at the table for 30 minutes and villain has only played a few hands. Villain UTG with $350 limps, 3 other limpers, hero Kh2h in SB covers limps ($18). Flop QhJx5h. Hero leads $15 villain makes it $50, all others fold, hero calls ($118). Turn 8h, hero checks, villain bets $50, hero raises to $140, villain calls ($398). River Jx.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:06 PM   #2
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Re: 1/3 NL river

1) Could still give us more info on Hero and V. How old, how dressed, etc. Anything helps.

2) I assume you mean you completed from the SB? Iffy with this hand, as you're only playing for the flush and *maybe* 2-pair, and it's 1/3, so you are paying more to complete.

3) I like the flop lead with the FD out and a board that could have hit a lot of limping ranges. Call of raise is OK with good implieds, imo. Not much Ahxh in his range, and a lot of 2-pair/sets that will likely pay off.

4) Turn c/r is good, though I'd make it bigger. Same bets usually are weakish made hands, so you might lose your customer, but meh. I'm assuming that V's stack is the effective, btw.

5) River blows, as it either gave him a boat or killed your action. I c/c here, because we're totally committed and his calling range OTR kills us.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:14 PM   #3
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Re: 1/3 NL river

Prolly like 55 and dressed like he has a decent amount of money, was talking with others about maybe playing a 5/10 mixed game
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:18 PM   #4
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Only at the table for 30 minutes and villain has only played a few hands. Villain UTG with $350 limps, 3 other limpers, hero Kh2h in SB covers limps ($18). Flop QhJx5h. Hero leads $15 villain makes it $50, all others fold, hero calls ($118). Turn 8h, hero checks, villain bets $50, hero raises to $140, villain calls ($398). River Jx.
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Is the question what to do after the river paired?

If my math is right villain has ~$200 which you are calling if you check and villain ships it. The only hands that should worry you is QJ and 55. Villain has more hands in his range which may pay you off such as lower flush, top pair, maybe tripped j, maybe q5, etc. As hand played bet the river for value and insta call with a frown if reraised. IMO
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:52 PM   #5
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Re: 1/3 NL river

Wow, I hate the whole hand.

I would fold preflop. In a 1/3 blind structure, we can't be playing these crappy hands OOP.

I'd check/evaluate this flop. We are never getting 5 opponents to fold this flop which has probably smashed 6 of them in the face. Getting raised absolutely sucks cuz now we'll just be OOP to the better hand and be in a difficult spot to get paid off. Villain would have to be a payoff monkey for me to consider calling the flop raise.

I hate life if the turn checks thru. Plus the OESD just got there. I bet large on the turn. As played, I check/raise more; if he's sitting with a set (admittedly 55 is the only reasonable set) we've given him too reasonable of odds to chase his boat (where we'll have a hard time folding the river).

River sucks. We only have $160 left in a $398 pot. We're ahead of straights and worse flushes. I ship it and live with the results since I don't think I can fold to a bet (and we lose value by worse hands checking behind).

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Old 06-28-2012, 06:09 PM   #6
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Re: 1/3 NL river

Shove. You are calling if he is betting, so you might as well get paid by worse. I don't think he can fold here either given size of pot.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:31 PM   #7
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Re: 1/3 NL river

Is it a leak of mine to fold these hands in the sb in a passive live game? The odds of hitting a flush draw is minimum and making it is even less. Not to mention the times we get over flushed or the river brings a fh, like in this hand.

As played, sigh shove.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:51 PM   #8
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I normally play with 2/3 blinds so its an easier call for me to play garbage. Most often I fold 72 type hands and the table looks shocked when it happens.
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