Hero;200,
Had been at the table about two hours.had been involved in really only 3 hands which I won and only two went to showdown.

Villain1; 300.
Seen this Villain limp call and overshove with weird hands. pretty loose and sloppy.
Effective stacks 200.

Hero in CO with 3 4 about 200 chips
EP1 limps
EP2 limps
Villain Limps
I call
SB completes
BB checks

18 in the pot. Flop: 3 4 K
Checks to Villain who bets 10.
Hero Raises to 30 everyone folds.
Villain Calls.

78 in the pot. Turn 10: Villain bets 30. Hero raises to 100. Villain calls.

278 in the pot. River 8 (forget the suit): Villain checks. Hero pushes all In 60 something.

Is this a good line? Maybe raise more on the flop? Or maybe even just fold Pre?

34s is pretty trashy, but whatever in this spot pre

More flop, shove turn.

Agree with above, on flop you should think 'what do I have to do to gii on the next card'.


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I wouldn't fold pre.

I think you should just jam over his turn donk here. Absolutely nothing wrong with taking the pot down right now with bottom two pair . If you're beat already vs this villian so be it

Ok, well the dude flipped over K hearts and 3 clubs. I couldn't put him on that hand on the flop or turn... I just could not see it that's why I jammed....

I thought a set maybe he had but that was unlikely cause KK he woulda jammed Pre and I had a 3 and 4 and the odds were slim they were all out there.. Is this a bad train of thought?

My next question is do I try play a lot of hands against an opponent like this? Or pucker up a tad?

Hammer him Pre Flop with better cards in an attempt to pick up dead monies or get him to call with two worse cards? Isolate?

I will be playing against this guy again as he hosts a home game.

I don't know why you would limp with that hand in the first place?

Now that you're seeing a flop IP i would probably raise more on the flop to set it up to GII on the turn.

As for the second question - yes, of course you try to play lots of hands with the guy and yes indeed isolate him.

Against a thinking player a hand like 34 has merit since you're trying to balance your range and let him know that you can slip in there with the little hands from time to time. Against bad players you just need to have showdown value and win, so you have to think of the kind of hands 34s makes. Crap combo draws. Lets just say you hit a favorable flop like 245, are you ever really happy to get it in on any runout? What if the flop is 226ss, when the money goes in at any point are you thrilled about your situation? This guy is a fish, and when you turn your hand over after he calls you allin on the river you need to slam it on the table knowing it is 100% the best hand vs him. Thats just not going to happen with 34, so I'd fold preflop.

As played this is about the best situation you could be in since there's just nothing he should really connect with, so in that stance getting it in was fine. At no point are we trying to "take it down" as one poster suggested, because whats the use in getting our opponent to fold on a dry board when we have 2 pair? If we're worried about being counterfeited then that means we're worried about losing to 5 outs. If your goal in poker is to make people fold with 10% equity then you're doing it wrong.

Great post - however, Is there really a need to have a balanced range on a regular $1-3 table?

I doubt most if any players paying too much attention on a balanced range and you're probably loose value.

I think he said balanced against a thinking player.. Which there are a few where I play which recognize patterns and little bit of hand ranging.

That being said I do like to keep them guessing and have a balanced range.. Normaly I don't limp along with these cards.. table dynamics kind of called for it though.

I fold preflop due to poor RIO (every good hand we make can be beaten by another good hand).

Two pair against this guy is probably good enough to commit with, so I also raise the flop and start committing.

On the turn we could easily be beaten, but I'm probably still taking the committing route against this guy. Pot is now $110 and we only have $170 left. I'm probably just shipping it at this point since the board is getting pretty drawy (and maybe he's donking some draws). Leaving only $60 left in a $280 pot (a lol 1/5th PSB for the river) is kinda pointless, imo.

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