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Originally Posted by momo_uk
Correct, I just thought his range was skewed towards QQ because of the turn c/c. But these nits probably don't even 4b QQ pre.
I've been running KK into AA almost every session now I think. And wonder if I should start 5b/folding pre when deep like this.
I hear you man, ive been doing the same thing alot lately- running KK into AA like a world class pro.
But yeah, to play the devils advocate a little bit i would say the river could be a check back sometimes when your up against unknowns whos range is kind of cloudy and not that well defined for you. Even the turn could be a check in position on a dry board like this, when we have serious reasoning to believe villain have alot of AA combos due to preflop action. Its kind of a way ahead/way behind spot when i think about it.
Because it is as you say, todays preflop nits(and its many of them) doesent 4 bet QQ or AK. Heck, many doesent even 3 bet a standard open with QQ or AK- so 4 betting with those hands is totally out of the question.
To eleborate further on this, i like your line alot if villain just was opening pre and you 3 bet with kings then he flatted you pre- then the hand went down like this. Cause then we know for sure his range is packed with 1010/ JJ/QQ combos. But with the 4 bet pre from him that seriously changes his range and how this hand should play out.
Last but not least, i would go with bigger 3 bet sizing here being around 170 BB deep. Both to give him worse implied odds against us, but also to getting more value pre. I would go $40-45 here.