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Good point. I'm not certain, but I think his 3bet calling range was fairly wide. I could see him calling a 3bet with just about any suited ace and any PP. I could be wrong though, since there weren't a bunch of people 3betting him preflop (ldoh, live), and when it happened it was often after a caller or two, so the dead money may have inticed him to call lighter in those cases.

I do believe my image to him was not nitty, though I had tightened up. Flatting may have been better, although there are a lot of flops that can't stand a big, pot-committing cbet, and he was pretty good at mixing in checks as well.

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05-04-2010 , 01:16 PM

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your hand is too vunerable not to shove imo

Perhaps so, but if I think my hand beats his range and I'm planning to get all my chips in no matter what turn card comes, shouldn't I be trying to get him to commit more chips? Sure, I could win another medium pot by shoving and folding out most of his range, possibly even a few hands I'm behind, but if I think he'll make a mistake with hands I'm ahead of, shouldn't I try to double up?

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05-04-2010 , 01:54 PM

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I run really bad in situations like this, but I do agree with Tom, you're PFR is a mistake if you're not willing to get it all in here. Your only consideration sould be weather to do it now, or in two chunks. I would go with a bet of around $100, it makes your hand look much stronger than it actually is.

my line against an LAG like this would be to smooth call IP preflop and try and hit a set. on this flop depending on the villians bet size i would have more options.

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05-04-2010 , 03:01 PM

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The plan was to get it all in unless the board came something like AKQ and villain donked out. If the board had a couple of overcards, then I was just going to play poker in position. As it turned out, the board was favorable and I think my hand is fairly strong here, since there aren't many hands that have it crushed. So, yes, the plan was to get it all in. The only consideration was how. I'm not sure a bet of around $100, leaving only $65 behind and making my hand look stronger than it actually is, accomplishes this goal very well. That would likely only fold out worse, winning me a medium sized pot, wouldn't it?

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05-04-2010 , 03:08 PM

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When u 3bet an uber-LAG (that usually plays bigger) and he calls, doesn't this usually mean that he has a big hand?

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05-04-2010 , 03:19 PM

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I don't know. Maybe? What's a big hand to this guy? Maybe any suited ace is not in his 3bet calling range, but I can't see him laying down any PP or big ace PF. I'll need to watch him play some more, or maybe just switch tables next time.

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05-04-2010 , 03:19 PM

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When u 3bet an uber-LAG (that usually plays bigger) and he calls, doesn't this usually mean that he has a big hand?

Not in my experience. It usually means he's put you on a very narrow range and called because he thinks he can outplay you post flop.

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05-04-2010 , 03:23 PM

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Not in my experience. It usually means he's put you on a very narrow range and called because he thinks he can outplay you post flop.

This guy was running over the table and obviously felt like he could outplay anyone, that's why I felt his 3bet calling range, even OOP, was pretty wide (and why I originally included suited aces). But maybe that was a mistake.

I know that one of the things these good LAGs do is put people on tilt and get them to overplay hands, and they're pretty good at figuring out when they've gotten under a players skin. This is how he ended up stacking a guy earlier with middle pair.

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