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04-27-2017 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Not discounting the combos is wrong. That's like saying we put 6 combos of AA in someone's flatting range vs a cold 4-bet
Discounting the 88 and 44 combos makes 88 a worse calling hand, while 44 becomes better.

vs range of J8+ (no JJ/99/33), vs range J8+ (no JJ/99/88/44/33)
88 = 32%, 27%
44 = 34%, 36%

vs J8+ suited only (no JJ/99/33), vs range J8+ suited only (no JJ/99/88/44/33)
88 = 41%, 25%
44 = 26%, 33%
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04-27-2017 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mark "twang"
Villain betting $60 into a $120 pot with trips is not the same thing as raising to $320 dollars on the river with a "garbage hand".

How many $320 bets did you see this past week that weren't nutted hands?
Didn't grunch this thread as I usually do (I suck at deepstack, so just popped my head in), but +1 to above, imo.

A limped JJ can *easily* be in the mix. No gutshots fold the flop. 99 is even easily in play (only one over card, position, could pick up backdoors, entitlement, etc.). The slowplaying 44 (really the only hand we beat) can see a lotta hands that beat it by the river and would often just talk themselves into a call of a big bet at this point.

Obviously it's a hard fold to make at the table, but I would lean towards it being the correct play against the majority of opponents. The lone exception to this might be if your game always plays deep and everyone is used to getting in 100bb+ on the river with whatever. I know my 100bb BI game can sometimes evolve into some deepstacks at the table, but when 100bb+ goes in on the river, it's pretty much always the nuts for most people.

Gcoolwithhandtoriver,andthenasighherofold,imoG
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