Villain - Middle aged, generally loose passive preflop (calling 70% of hands preflop), raising in position and with big cards. Doesn't seem to get out of line too often post flop but will call with almost any pair or draw. Raises post flop have been with big hands, not draws.

Hero - Mid 30's, very tight (second hand played this session after an hour and a half), fairly aggressive. Did not show the other hand played this session, although villain and hero have history. Villain knows that hero has is a tight player, but hasn't tried to push him off pots.

Effective stacks $240

2 limps in ep, Hero raises to $16 with AK from mp, folds around to Villain who calls from sb, limpers fold

Flop is 35J

Villain checks, Hero bets $30

Turn is T

Hero?

I'd check here, a lot of outs, and i may bluff at a heart.

I think this (/\)answers your question.

I think one interesting point that is illustrated in this post is how villains who notice that we are raising after folding for over an hour straight are still happy to call a big raise and peel peel peel. The bad news: our hours of advance poker efforts are getting underutilized. The good news: we can value bet them until they make an adjustment.

In this hand, you were given the gift of a free card. You might have ten outs if behind, and if you are ahead, based on read, you will likely be able to take it down on river. There are more pairs in villain's range than draws, imo.

What you do not want to do is bloat pot and have to make a decision when Kh comes and you are bet into.

Check the turn, you have a lot of outs but likely aren't folding out very many hands that called the flop and don't want to get blown of what might be the best hand.

This guy is calling 70% pf and doesn't get too out of line post flop...

I'm betting turn. Bet 55% of pot and take it down.

Thanks for the responses, I agree that a check would definitely have been the way to go.

At the table my thinking was that I didn't want to give draws a free card and that he was unlikely to have a strong enough hand to check raise. However, I didn't take into account that I would be forced to fold to a check raise and have to give up my substantial equity in the pot.

What do we do if called and we miss the river? Or worse, are check raised?

That's results oriented. He has a set, so you lose. However, you take this pot down often with 2 barrels. A lot of times you get QQ to fold in this spot.

Unfortunately against this particular opponent, I don't think we take this pot down with 2 barrels all that often. He's very sticky with his hands. My thinking was that I should charge draws (which I think make up a good portion of his range). As for results oriented, he did have QQ and called a $52 bet.

River was another 5 and Villain checked. Any value in a 3rd barrel on the river? Or just check and hope our AK is the best hand?

For ****s sake people, the guy is loose passive preflop and likely a station. Don't bluff here, cbet the flop then shut down, you make money here by value betting.

If you were going to waste money at least waste it on hookers and blow.

I am agreeing with you 11t, just stating what happened after I bungled the turn. I checked 'er down on the river!

the op says he will "call with almost any pair or draw" and you really think you're going to get him to fold QQ without an overcard on the board???

Preflop looks obvious.

I probably wouldn't bet as much on the flop. I'd go for a little over a 1/2 PSB. If villain has nothing (or even an underpair < J that was setmining and whiffed), he's folding to any bet. If villain has something (and is therefore ahead unless he's on a draw), then he's calling. So I take the cheapest route possible to try to take down the pot while now making my bet so weak that I could be played back at.

In general, I give up on the turn against calling stations (which this villain seems to be). If villain can float with middling pairs and can fold to turn bets, then I might bet scary overcards that would seem to hit me on the turn, but I don't think any of that applies here. Besides, we've now picked up a gutshot so I'd love to take the free card. I'm planning on checking behind the river and hoping my A high wins against a busted draw.

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Definitely check behind river as our A high will often be good here against busted draws (both flush and straight draws whiffed). As well, the board pairing is not good to bluff at because if villain called you on the turn with a weak hand thinking he is good then absolutely nothing has changed on the river, so he's even less likely to be bluffed off a weak pair.

Lol. Without an A/K on board, this Villain is folding QQ exactly never.