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[1-2] Thin call with NFD? [1-2] Thin call with NFD?

07-10-2017 , 12:31 AM
Local casino Saturday night. There is a Fireworks show happening outside the casino, so lots of terrible rec-fish.

Hero BTN: geeky Asian male, plays TAG but probably viewed as a nit and possibly a bit of a station due to previous hands action.

V1 (main V in the hand under analysis) BB: Young middle-eastern male. He has been pretty quiet so far. He has raised very few hands and has limped behind or folded each time. Have only seen him show down QQ once on a ragged board and lose to a ridiculous 2-pair. Stack ~$135

V2 (target #1 at the table) MP: Young Spanish male. Sunglasses. Talks a lot of smack but is incredibly stationy both pre and postflop. He has also run a couple of ridiculous bluffs against other stations at the table. Stack ~$60.

V3 (target #2) SB: MAWG. Limp-calls any two napkins (seen him show down K4o), but also 4-bet overshoved $400 with AK on top of Hero's $30 3bet (Hero folded AQ and didn't show). Massive fish that tripled up not long ago against V1 and V2. Hero has the seat change button and is waiting for an opening to get on V3's left.

Hand from a a few orbits earlier: Hero 3bet QQ $42 in position over an LOL-small $7 open and 3-4 callers. Only V1 called the 3bet from OOP. Flop was 972r. V c/c a $60 cbet then donk shoved $120 on a K turn. Hero snapped him off expecting to be good, and got showed KTcc -- V peeled with 2 overs and no draw (not even backdoor clubs).

On to the hand...

Limps around to Hero with A4. Hero decides to limp behind due to having the button and lack of fold equity. The plan is to see a flop cheap and get a chance to overflush V2 or V3. Limps to V1 who makes it $10. 3 calls including V2 to Hero. Hero obviously calls and so does V3. 5-way to the flop.

Flop ($50) 10 6 5

V3 checks, V1 open shoves $125. V2 snap calls for remaining $50.

Hero?

There is $225 in the pot. We are calling $125 to win $350 and need to be good 35% of the time.

V1 most likely has TT+. We block some AA combos and AKdd/AQdd. We really don't want to see TT. If V has JJ-KK our A outs are good. We also have backdoor straight outs.

V2 doesn't only have TT/66/55. He can have 2 overs, any pair, any flush draw, and any straight draw. We're probably not too concerned about V2 here.

If we call, there's a small chance V3 comes along.

Last edited by LittlePud; 07-10-2017 at 12:40 AM.
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07-10-2017 , 12:35 AM
Seems like an easy GII after the raise preflop. There are some situations where your ace is an out here vs KK-JJ.
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07-10-2017 , 01:13 AM
I'm calling, but I'm a gamblefish. Btw you are either viewed as a nit or a station, you can't be both. But I doubt in this hand it matters.
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07-10-2017 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sw_emigre
I'm calling, but I'm a gamblefish. Btw you are either viewed as a nit or a station, you can't be both. But I doubt in this hand it matters.
nits can be stations. That just means a person who only plays big pairs and then never folds them.
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07-10-2017 , 11:52 AM
Definitely at least calling. How much do you have?
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07-10-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Definitely at least calling. How much do you have?
Hero covers.
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07-10-2017 , 12:02 PM
I think it is a slightly + EV call due to your A outs being live sometimes, and the backdoor straight possibilities.

That said it is only slightly EV IMO so comes down to your variance tolerance. I'm calling but I like to gamble in these spots.
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07-10-2017 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LittlePud
Hero covers.
I was debating raising, but keeping V3 in the hand is enticing. What will he flat with, though? Would hate to have him flat and then make a big bet on turn if we miss. We want to see turn and river.
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07-10-2017 , 05:10 PM
Spoiler:
Hero tank calls and V3 folds. Against a range of TT+ we are 43% against V1 but we only need 35% to call. 3-way equity including V2 goes down, but we weren't worried about V2 much.

Board runs out A 8 and our hand is good against TT. We sucked out on the river against the nut worst (for us) hand in V1's range.
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