Hero has been playing taggish this night, but more passive at this very active table due to being pretty card dead. Table has seen Hero double up an unknown when having a set and villain donk semi-bluffed and eventually hit flush. Otherwise no other showdown hands at this table. Stack $314.

Villain 1, to direct left of Hero, taggish but looser and more aggressive than Hero. Had huge stack at a previous table with Hero, but had switched tables fairly quickly after Hero sat down, and has lost quite a bit of it before Hero joined his new table. Has recently commented on not running good recently. Straddles often and "defends" his straddle, but otherwise taggish. Stack ~$400

Villain 2, tight passive, hasn't made many showdowns but recently lost with QQ and complained it was the 3rd time that night so tilty. Stack ~$250

9 handed, $1/$2 NL
V1 straddles to $6 UTG
Whole table surprisingly calls to Hero in BB who calls with KT.

I didn't see any value in raising. Calling $4 for $50 already in pot, with multiple stacks bigger than mine at table, and unlikely V1 would raise the field, thought was fairly standard call.

Flop (~$50): A65

Pretty good flop for me. SB checks, Hero checks, V1 bets $35, 2 folds, straight-forward player calls, 2 folds, V2 calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

I put V1 on pretty wide range since he defended his straddle often: Ax, 66/55, 2 pair, flush or str8 draw. The 2 callers either 2 pair, pair+draw, or flush/str8 draws.

I considered a c/r, but thought at least one of the others had a lower flush draw and didn't want to blow them out, and wasn't sure how much fold equity I had. If I hit on turn, the hand would basically play itself. Also have been experimenting with showing more aggression on turn vs flop since it seems so much stronger (however I do have more equity on flop than a missed turn). Really wanted to fold everything out other than other flush draws, wasn't sure if best to do that on flop or turn.

Turn (~$155): 4

Hero checks, V1 bets $95, 1 fold, V2 hems/haws calls, Hero raises all-in for $273,

Again, I wanted to fold out everything but flush draws, but sets and turned str8s probably calling. Really wanted V1 to fold and V2 to call with fd (or better yet both call and hit flush on river). I thought I had a lot of fold equity with that board and my c/r ai on turn.

Comments on all streets welcome.

Tough to thin the field pre with so many callers so call is fine. Flop standard. Ott, I take the simple route and check call. I assume we have implied odds for this. I think we are against 2pair + for villain 1, and who knows for villain 2. But this was a 9 handed limped pot. Out of 9 hands, its pretty likely someone has 2pair+, especially when he comes out firing. He probly would have raised big aces pre, so we're looking at sets and 2 pair now. It sorta looks like we hit our straight but i dont think hes folding enough for this to be +ev.

Looks like folding ott is a pretty reasonable option too. Might be best but its close

If I was to base it on my own games, I wouldn't think you have enough fold equity to make shoving turn correct given the strength V1s showing, and c/calling is probably not good enough here, so I'd actually just let it go, painful as it is.

I see a lot of dead money on the flop... Id rather take it down here. Pot is like 155 and actions on you...
If you raise, actions gonna be on the opener. Hard to call for him with 2 other players to talk after him. And hes the one with the "stronger" hand since no one raised after his open
I probably raise flop to like 150 or more evalute my odds if someone shoves on me.
And then I probably just shove any turn

Flop call is good, we are getting direct odds to just call. Best argument for raising is that we are OOP.

Turn I think we can call, but fold is ok being OOP. We have almost direct odds to call if we have all 9 outs live so we really don't need to win a huge bet on the river. Of course it's possible that we have only 7 outs if someone else is on a flush draw, or even 5 outs if the four and five of diamonds are not live.

This is about a break-even call, maybe slightly losing, it's very close mathematically. If V2 had more money it's a definite call.

Your jam has little fold equity. It is about 40% of the pot, I would think V1 calls it off with how much strength he's showing.

The real question is how do we play a spade river. I say jam, even if it pairs the board.

I like it all I think....
I would be cool with raising the flop aswell, there is so much dead money out there, if we can get all the money in the middle on this flop it must be ++ev

You have very little fe against 2 leads from v1. I'd actually fold because we have AT BEST 9 outs.

Question: what range do we raise preflop here? And how much?

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I would never try and bluff a V that has already put in 1/3rd of his stack in addition to showing aggression on two streets in a 9-handed pot. The player description also doesn't seem like the type of opponent I would try and run a bluff on. He seems way too much of a "gambler" type to ever make a hero fold in a large pot. "Straddles" often, "defends his straddle", and "complains about running bad" are not the hallmarks of a TAG; they are the hallmarks of a fish.

I think hero picked a very spot to run a semi-bluff.

As said by someone before i like a raise on the flop but i think call is fine

My range would be QQ+/AK, but thats about it, OOP. And ~$50 for same reason. And I'd expect 1-2 callers at that table.

Ok so consensus is c/c flop, and either c/c or c/f turn. I feel I play my draws too passively, but sounds like in this hand I should have taken the passive line. Typically I would have, but was on a little short-term tilt from missing multiple draws yet villains hitting them against me.

Results:
V1 hemmed/hawed, reached for chips then pulled them back, looked around, and eventually pushed a stack to the middle. V2 thought for a while, convinced himself "I just can't call" and folded.

River was a 2 and Hero pulls in 400BB pot. Oh, wait,

River was a 2, Hero tables K-high, V1 takes multiple looks at board then tables his A6o for 2-pair.

So I did over-estimate my FE. Probably not going to overvalue any additional FE from turn raise vs flop raise any more unless I have specific reads on villain understanding the strength that portrays.

Thanks all for comments.

It's not that x/c flop, CRAI turn is a weak line, it's just that you aren't deep enough this particular time for it to work.

That said, playing draws passively in LLSNL isn't necessarily bad. Villains often bet their hands weakly which gives you good odds to call and then they don't like to fold even when you hit a fairly obvious hand.