Hero has a tight image in the table. But has a history with Villain 2(Both know that both are capable of making some moves).

Villain 2 (a decent player) is a little angry, not playing his best. Villain 1, Plays pretty straight forward. Usually, If he has the best of it, he will bet. Calls with medium strength and drawing hand.

Villain 1 (100 BB) in MP: Raises to 3.5 BB
Villain 2 (130 BB) in HJ: 3-bets to 10 BB
Hero (270 BB) in CO: 4-bets to 27.5 BB with KK
Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 calls.

Flop (84 BB): 89J. At this moment I am worried if someone hit a set.
Action checks to me, I bet 38 BB, both calls.

Turn (198 BB): J
Action checks to hero, What is the best approach here???
Any comment on the bet sizing????

Hero checks back.
River (198 BB): A
Action Checks to Hero, Hero checks back.

Make it larger pre. Maybe to around $40.

As played bet much larger on flop. Close to pot. Because once V1 calls ur flop bet, V2 will be able to profitably call with anything behind.

Turn: check behind. No need to value bet or turn ur hand into a bluff. You aren't getting called by worse that often.
River: call any blank.

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SPR is a little more than one with both villains on the flop. We should be shoving any flop without an ace.

This

He made it $55 pre.

Hero should have made it even more pre.

4 bet more pre to try to induce shoves and/or create an SPR < 1 if called.

This is not a great flop for you but SPR is barely 1 so just shove given no Ace. You'll get looked up by hands like QQ AJ KJ QJ JT maybe 87 as well as QT J9 98 JJ 99 88.

You're good more often than not but expect to lose decently often

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Name a worse hand that calls besides QQ/1010.

People call 4 bets at 1/2 with AJ? Ok.

Against 1010 were not a big favorite here. Crushed vs sets.

We that scared of an Ace that we need to shove flop? This is one of the worst flops imaginable for KK and V1 could have AA in the first place.

Imagine a scenario where we check flop, V1 bets, V2 shoves. Can we call here? Should be a fold imo. There are situations where we get away from this hand, bad turns are 10/Q/A but if you were even ahead otf these are all pretty unlikely to hit.

I'm OK with the smaller 4b. We're not trying to fold out everything but KK and AA.

I'm OK not shoving the flop. True, SPR is 1, but it is a pretty terrible flop. The most likely hands for V's are big PP. TT has 10 outs to beat us, and will correctly call; not making any money there. We'd like to get the monies from QQ, but we're pretty WABE against that hand. We can probably get it all on the turn.

I'd probably jam the turn. It's unlikely anyone has a J (AJ, KJ, QJ, JT probably didn't call the pre 4b and at least some of them will lose heart OTF).

AP I think you can bet the river for really thin value against specifically TT and QQ.

Small chance for AK or AQ. They're almost always folding to the flop bet or leading the river.

Small chance for boat. No one has taken any aggressive action despite your small flop bet and turn check. No reason for them to expect you to bet for them on the river.

Small chance for a J. AJ, KJ, QJ, JT unlikely to call the 4b and then, as with boats, unlikely to think you'll bet for them OTR.

I think you can lead out tiny on the river (say 34 bb to put V1 in) and get called 50%+ by worse hands. Even though LOL pot odds, there's about 0.5% chance it's a bluff with a worse hand, so I b/f.

If the river weren't an A, I think this would be mandatory. The A will scare all the hands you want to call, but getting 7:1 makes folding hard so I still think it's worthwhile.

This flop is not great but there are no turn cards that make it any better and some that make things substantially worse (any Ace, any Q, any T, any J, any 7). With an SPR of 1 I don't see how we can fold an overpair. Since things can only get worse for us we might as well ship it now and pray for some light calls since it looks like a C-bet.

Assuming a range of 88+ and AK for V's, OTF we have 23% equity. They each have 38%. (The sum isn't 100% because of rounding.)

If we jam, I'd expect every PP to call us. We're 17% against their continuing ranges.

Turn T or Q are great cards. We drop to about 8-10% equity and can fist pump snap fold if bet to. An ace isn't quite so good. We drop to 12% equity and so we're still folding, but it's not quite so fist pumpy.

If the turn is a brick we still have only 25% equity and probably have to fold to a bet. But if it's checked to us, we probably have the best hand and can play accordingly.

If turn is an 8, 9, or J, we have about 28% equity. Again folding to a bet but again feeling better if checked to us.

I think jamming the flop is actually just a mistake. I think betting is a mistake. Only 25% or so of each of their ranges is AK, so we're mostly just getting called and we're probably behind.

It's a terrible flop with two V's, one of whom probably outflopped us. I think we need to play cautiously and use our position to either fold or get to showdown against the widest possible range.

This.

I don't see any other way to play the hand.

Read the thread dude. I feel I need to reiterate how bad this is. SPR being 1 doesn't mean you have to light money on fire. Hero 4-bets pre to $55. What hands call?

Fwiw I play this hand by checking flop and turn then betting river.

Do you play live poker? People call pre with all kinds of BS hands.

Hero's 4! should be slightly bigger, but this is a standard, meh, who cares, shove OTF.

Curious what did V's show up with?

What hands flat call? Not Aces. Mostly **** like AQ+ KQ and pocket pairs. But I wouldn't rule out SCs or AXs or anything besides Aces. It's live low stakes poker. At least one villain probably has something that should never flat a 4 bet.

We have an overpair of Kings with an SPR near 1. Yeah the flop is not perfect but shoving is hardly lighting money on fire.

In fact I'd wager one of the villains has something stupid like AQ and hero loses because he didn't ship.

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Preflop: 4bet to $50. I think that $55 is a bit big when you're only $200 deep.
Flop: as played, there's $165 in the pot with $145 behind. This is an easy jam. Hopefully you'll get called by hands like AJs, ATs, TT and QQ, as well as folding out AK/AQ hands which have a decent amount of equity to outdraw you.

Bigger pre, shove flop, order drink.

I mean an ace, 6 outs on the flop if one of them has AQ (which they could have AQ and AK for sure). We're jamming here so they fold their weak hands? We that scared of an Ace that we need them to fold? It's so unlikely to hit that I don't care about giving free cards.

All of the whiffed AQ/AK would fold to a jam. Again the only hands that call are qq, 1010, and sets...

Your average 1/2 player would shove here anyway so shoving is almost neutral ev at worst, but there's a profitable fold to be found here in certain cases imo. If checked to on the river (minus the ace hitting) you can still bet for value, any hand better than kk would have already bet itself.

The average $1/$2 player will find show up with plenty of hands to call with. AT, JT, T9, T8, 88, 99, JJ, TT, QQ, 98, AQ, AJ, QJ, KJ. One player is tilted and will probably call even lighter. Were not shoving because we fear an Ace, this is a value shove. (58% equity) Shoving was conditional on an ace not flopping since we are frequently behind when that happens. Since we are offer about 2-1 because of stack sizes people with six outs are probably calling. If they put just a few combo's of AK in our range it isn't a big mistake.

AJ will call. OESDs like AT. Even weaker hands like JT assuming villain ever has these. QQ. TT. That's 12 combos TT/QQ + up to 32 combos AT/AJ (certainly less, but they have these hands sometimes). Even if villain never has AJ/AT/etc., there's 9 set combos on this board. I'm fine if we're ahead of 12 combos and behind 9 in a 4-bet pot with SPR near 1.

Yes

Why are people suggesting bigger pre? Like you're $200 deep. Anything over $65 is an effective shove. We don't need to raise so big with stack sizes as they are.

So we can induce jams from V2 rather than flats, and if flatted we can jam nearly any flop with SPR near 1.

Because people will call.

Shove pre is prolly better than cold 4b 1/3rd of effective stacks