1/2 FR but Short Handed Table

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V1 ($200): Mid 20's Male, Ep Open Limps QQ, EP Limp Calls Hero's BUT Isolation Raise X/F on A44r

Hero (Covers): Mid 20's Male, Internet Looking Kid

Pre Flop

MP Folds

CO Hero Raise $7 w/ 97

BUT Folds

SB Folds

BB V1 Calls

Flop 862 (Pot: $14)

V1 Checks

Hero Cbets $10

V1 Calls

Turn Q (Pot: $32)

V1 Checks

Hero Cbets $25

V1 Calls

River 3 (Pot: $82)

V1 Check

Hero? Thoughts on any street?

Should this Hand be part of my 3barrel bluff range on a runout like this?

I probably check behind on the turn. He was representing the flush more strongly than we are with his call on the flop, and if he check-raises we have to fold a hand that has some equity. Take the free card.

I don't think you need a 3-barrel bluff range playing 1/2. That said, this is obviously a great card to bluff, as you have zero showdown value and it's very, very hard for him to continue without a club in his hand. I probably bet out $40 or so, on the theory that I have to win half the time for the bluff to work. Let's assume that he would lead out with the A or K of clubs, call with any other club, and fold all other hands. Clearly an over-simplification, since he could hero call with a set or fold a 4 or 5 of clubs, and may lead out with a lower club, but go with it. We've seen 7 of the cards, so there are 45 left in the deck. There are 9 clubs left in the deck, but he checked so we're assuming he doesn't have the A or K of clubs, which leaves 7 clubs remaining (and also means there are effectively 43 cards left in the deck, since we've assumed he doesn't have either of those). So, there's a 7/43 chance that he has a club for any given card, meaning there's a 36/43 chance he doesn't have a club for his first card and, assuming he doesn't have a club for his first card, a 35/42 chance he doesn't have a club for his second card. 36/43*35/42 is about 70%, so I think a bluff makes sense here.

^ No. You're assuming his cards are randomly distributed, which is a completely incorrect assumption. The fact that he called a flop with a flush draw and then a turn when it came in makes it more likely he has a club. And a half pot bet doesn't need to work 1/2 the time it needs to work 1/3 of the time.

I'd bet $40 as well, assuming he only calls with a club and could fold the lowest ones.

Fair enough on the assumptions, though while the fact that he's called twice makes it more likely he has a club, the fact that he's checked the river makes it less likely that he now has a flush.

You're right on the math, which makes it an even better spot to bluff.

I'm checking back the turn here most of the time.

Having said that, you've got to try a bluff here. Any V that limps up front with QQ, flats a button raise, then open-folds an A-high flop (did I really read that right?) is tissue-paper weak and should be looking for an excuse to fold here.

I think it's worth putting a little more in OTR to entice another pip or two worth of his clubs to find a fold. In a pot this size (or for that matter anywhere from about $75-$100) I'd go with $50 if for no other reason that to most 1/2 donkeys, it just sounds like a lot more than $40.

More pre,more on the flop. I probably shut down on the turn.

The avg 1/2 v will still call OTR with a non but flush when a 4th flush card comes. They just seem to get stuck to them and call disgusted. For this reason if I hold the stiff A of flush and catch the 4th flush card OTR I usually value bet fairly substantial.

Therefore I don't try to bluff average lowstakes players off their flush but will sometimes make the play vs better players who can fold.

So if our v has flushes in his range which he does here I don't bluff this river unless I have seen him make an above average lay down in the past.

horrible spot to empty, shut down on the turn.