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1/2 LAG shoves over big river bet deep 1/2 LAG shoves over big river bet deep

05-05-2017 , 05:04 PM
Hero (EP): mid 20s Asian, aggressive image ($700)
Villain (BTN): mid 20s white guy, decent LAG who's had a few drinks so I'm assuming he plays higher and just plays 1/2 sometimes to have fun ($900)

Hero opens $12 with 66 in EP. Two callers including villain and the BB also calls.

Flop: Q96 ($49)

Hero bets $25. Villain calls other two fold.

Turn: 3 ($94)

I've never seen villain check back turn when checked to and we've been here for hours.

Hero checks. Villain bets $45. Hero raises to $120. Villain snap calls.

River: 7 ($334)

Hero bets $200 (shoulda bet a little bigger). Villain tanks forever. Keeps trying to talk to hero to get a read. Hero does nothing but give villain the Timex stare. Someone calls clock on villain. Villain's demeanor suddenly changes and he says "Alright you got about $350 behind? All in".

His value range is probably 99/T8s. Not even sure if he shoves 99 cause I rep only sets and straights (don't have Q9s in EP) and shoving 99 into that calling range is probably not the smartest. He never has QQ and if he floated 54s with a BDFD...that's certainly interesting. Can he be bluffing enough here with JT for this to be a call? He knows I'm super polarized here and if he had JT he knows he blocks JT (obviously) and I'm less likely to be bluffing. Also the fake tanking pretending he's debating calling or folding followed by a shove is very suspicious but he might also be trying to make me think it's suspicious to get me to fold.
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05-05-2017 , 05:16 PM
Snap call.

Folding here is atrocious.
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05-05-2017 , 05:26 PM
Don't particularly like the Turn Check Raise, as it pretty much puts your hand face up. You're probably not doing this with AA, KK, AQ.

As for River, I'm probably calling it off against described villain and given pot odds, but I'm not exactly loving it.
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05-05-2017 , 06:07 PM
Flop bet isn't big enough. This is a dangerous flop because lots of preflop calling hands have straight draws. JT/T8/87 are all 2 card draws and there are a ton of gut shot draws. There are also a lot of one pair and pair+potential hands that are not going away. 4 ways to the flop I'm going $35/$40 on this board.

Turn check/raise isn't enough either. Villain's bet is not big and there is already a bunch in the pot. Check/raise pot it to $150-$200. Because so many draws are possible you don't know which cards are dangerous on this board so you need to charge villain now if he wants to stick around. I don't mind the idea of a check/raise, particularly against a villain that will always bet when checked too. If you are going to do that you need to punish him when you do, don't give him any playable odds.

As played I'm probably calling it off also. There are too many straight draws he might have missed to give up easily. I could talk myself out of calling depending on how I read his acting job but it would never be an easy fold against a LAG on this board.
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05-05-2017 , 06:55 PM
Ya i mean like you said, we never beat any value hands. So villain is very polarized. With these guys, you sometimes just have to buckle up & call down. Some people are sick enough to bluff in spots where no one would ever bluff. If we have a hand that beats 90% of the hands he gets to the river with, we should probly call, mostly cause of pot odds. With that being said, I would say villains most likely hand here is T8 ainec. Small turn bet makes sense to get you off AK, or other A high. Id just have to pay this off. Folding to a drunkish lag is a much bigger mistake here than calling off when we have pretty awesome odds with a very good hand
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05-05-2017 , 07:51 PM
Call/berate


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05-06-2017 , 01:10 AM
Fold man. But I know we got to call cause math duh.

Call I guess he can have hands we best but honestly he doesn't. Any 2 pair would have played it different. Any and that got made on river beats us and he can't there with a hand we beat the will call a bet.

I feel hands like this is what separates the win rates from std to the obscene ones
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05-06-2017 , 02:32 AM
Just go b/b/b. You don't want to be playing for stacks 350bb deep with flopped bottom set, which is what your turn x/r is trying to accomplish or near accomplish.

And when you x/r this turn, you're basically flipping your cards over and saying, "Hey, I'm piling in the moneyz because I flopped a set!!!"

AP, just fold.

Value hands are 54s with bdfd/108s.

When he snap-calls your turn raise, this almost always means a draw. He basically has a hand that wasn't strong enough or worth consider reraising.
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05-06-2017 , 04:49 AM
opening 66 UTG to 6x is not good - I would limp or just fold in most lineups. Even if you flop the set, it`s so hard to get max value OOP.

bet/bet/bet line is way better
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as played:

raise turn way bigger ..

river is a call for that price. **** that guy

lol @ timex stare .. are you trying to method act your way into dufus-ville?

Last edited by proBono; 05-06-2017 at 04:54 AM.
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05-06-2017 , 07:43 AM
There's only one hand he could have and that is 108. I doubt he is bluffing l with the line you took. Fold.
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