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08-19-2017 , 10:23 AM
9 handed table.
Hero is perceived as a nitty.
V1/Co is a rec player with notions but not as good as he think he is. Example: 2 orbits before called a 3bet on the SB with A9 from the nitty of the table with the initial raiser to act behind.
SB is the worst player you can imagine.



Preflop: Hero is UTG with 99 ($375 stack)

Hero open to $7, HJ calls, V1 on CO calls (+$500 stack) , BTN calls, SB calls, BB.


Flop: ($42) 977 (6 players)
Check, check, Hero bets $15, HJ folds, V1 call, BTN folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: ($87) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $38, V1 calls, SB folds

River: ($163) A (2 players)
Hero bets $101, V1 shove $450, Hero????


Hero needs to call $214 to win a pot of $793 ($163 + $315 + $315), just needing to be good 27% of the time.



This is snap call, am I right?
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08-19-2017 , 10:25 AM
hope you didn´t slowroll the guy.
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08-19-2017 , 10:33 AM
Snippity snap snap snap. You lose to one combo of 77 and theoretically (though it almost never takes this line) 3 combos of AA. Meanwhile, you beat a ton of A7 (total number depends on how often A7o is in his PF range, as we know all A7s is), and maybe a few combos of weirdly played flushes.
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08-19-2017 , 10:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaFrias
9 handed table.
Hero is perceived as a nitty.
V1/Co is a rec player with notions but not as good as he think he is. Example: 2 orbits before called a 3bet on the SB with A1/2 - Full house vs shove river:91/2 - Full house vs shove river: from the nitty of the table with the initial raiser to act behind.
SB is the worst player you can imagine.



Preflop: Hero is UTG with 91/2 - Full house vs shove river:91/2 - Full house vs shove river: ($375 stack)

Hero open to $7, HJ calls, V1 on CO calls (+$500 stack) , BTN calls, SB calls, BB.


Flop: ($42) 91/2 - Full house vs shove river:71/2 - Full house vs shove river:71/2 - Full house vs shove river: (6 players)
Check, check, Hero bets $15, HJ folds, V1 call, BTN folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: ($87) 51/2 - Full house vs shove river: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $38, V1 calls, SB folds

River: ($163) A1/2 - Full house vs shove river (2 players)
Hero bets $101, V1 shove $450, Hero????


Hero needs to call $214 to win a pot of $793 ($163 + $315 + $315), just needing to be good 27% of the time.



This is snap call, am I right?
Bet more preflop. Bet more OTF. Bet more OTT. Bet more OTR.

Now discounting bluffs we beat 3 combos 55, 2 combos 97, 6 combos A7, 6 combos 75, and up to 45 flushes but probably much less.

We lose to 1 combo 77, 3 combos AA.

Yeah it's an easy call even if villain never has flushes. Even easier call if your sizing were better though.

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08-19-2017 , 01:59 PM
Um, we also lose to 1 combo of 68.
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08-19-2017 , 02:24 PM
I'm pretty MUBSy and even I'm calling before he gets AI all the way out of his mouth. Way too many hands that he thinks are good here that are in his range.
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08-19-2017 , 02:31 PM
lol
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08-19-2017 , 07:49 PM
If your problem is that you're winning small pots, and losing big pots, the solution isn't to fold more, it's to bet more.

How you got where you are is a lot more interesting than where you ended up.

Try 40, 120, shove next time.
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08-19-2017 , 08:01 PM
The more I look at this HH I have to think AA isn't even in his range. From your description of V, he either 3!s the flop or turn with that particularly knowin the river and that AA is increasingly likely that if he had AA one is the club. I think that he's put you on TT-KK and with an A plus the flush coming in that this is a great time to bluff pretty much his entire range.
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08-19-2017 , 09:01 PM
You've been playing poker too long to make this post, OP. Learn to focus your study efforts on hands that are interesting. This thread deserves no comments.
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08-19-2017 , 11:21 PM
Thank you all by your replies.

It was a snap call.

AA are never in his range. For me I would be losing just to 77 or 8c6c.

Spoiler:
V1 showed 77
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08-20-2017 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Buster65
Um, we also lose to 1 combo of 68.
My bad. Missed a combo, not that it changes anything. Villain never even has AA here so we're losing to 77 and 86.

So, losing to probably 2 combos quads and SF. Beating up to 16 combos of lesser boats + who knows how many flushes. I think we're most commonly against A7 with how this was played, though 55 is very possible with flop betting size and some combos 97 also likely.

Super snap call obviously. Why post this?
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08-20-2017 , 06:08 AM
Gtfo with these bad beat posts or quit poker altogether if you seriously had any doubts about calling.
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