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Old 05-19-2017, 02:41 PM   #1
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1/2 call heads up fold as played?

Villain 1 (EP): MAWG, gambly fish who's had three double shots of whiskey ($500)
Villain 2 (SB): middle aged white woman, playing well so far and bluffing sometimes ($400)

Villain 3 (EP): 30s white guy, OK reg possibly tilting cause down a LOT ($300)

Hero (MP): mid 20s Asian, winning TAG image ($1000)

Two limpers to hero with KQ who makes it $16 instead of $14 to try to isolate Villain 1. They all call.

Flop: QT8 ($60)

Checked to hero who checks it back. My reasoning here was that it's a very dangerous coordinated flop, I'm gonna get called anyways a lot anyways so betting to protect doesn't make sense. Betting to get value is also super thin. Better to check it back for pot control and keep their ranges weak. If I'm wrong correct me here. But if cbetting this even heads up is questionable, definitely a check back four way.

Turn: 3 ($60)

Checked to hero who bets $33. EVERYONE calls lol...

River: 4 ($192)

Checked to Villain 1 who thinks about it and slides forward a stack of $100.

His line here makes zero sense. It's repping a big hand that can beat AA like QT+. But he checked both flop and turn and over called turn instead of raising. Looks like a missed draw (there's a ton) that took a stab. I think heads up this is an easy call but we're four way and I have to worry about the other two villains. Let it go?
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:05 PM   #2
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Re: 1/2 call heads up fold as played?

Don't like checking the flop.

Why would we invite 33 or 44 to get a couple of free cards?

Or Tx, 9x or 8x?
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:19 PM   #3
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Re: 1/2 call heads up fold as played?

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Villain 1 (EP): MAWG, gambly fish who's had three double shots of whiskey ($500)
Villain 2 (SB): middle aged white woman, playing well so far and bluffing sometimes ($400)

Villain 3 (EP): 30s white guy, OK reg possibly tilting cause down a LOT ($300)

Hero (MP): mid 20s Asian, winning TAG image ($1000)

Two limpers to hero with KQ who makes it $16 instead of $14 to try to isolate Villain 1. They all call.

Flop: QT8 ($60)

Checked to hero who checks it back. My reasoning here was that it's a very dangerous coordinated flop, I'm gonna get called anyways a lot anyways so betting to protect doesn't make sense. Betting to get value is also super thin. Better to check it back for pot control and keep their ranges weak. If I'm wrong correct me here. But if cbetting this even heads up is questionable, definitely a check back four way.

Turn: 3 ($60)

Checked to hero who bets $33. EVERYONE calls lol...

River: 4 ($192)

Checked to Villain 1 who thinks about it and slides forward a stack of $100.

His line here makes zero sense. It's repping a big hand that can beat AA like QT+. But he checked both flop and turn and over called turn instead of raising. Looks like a missed draw (there's a ton) that took a stab. I think heads up this is an easy call but we're four way and I have to worry about the other two villains. Let it go?
No draws really completed, so I call here. After your flop check and turn bet, villain might be putting you on a busted club draw.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:43 PM   #4
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Re: 1/2 call heads up fold as played?

im not folding here as played. your hand is under repped due to the flop check. i think you are on to something about a missed draw. and now i see he's had 3 double shots of liquid courage, oh heck no im not folding.

im not too concerned about other villains given the action to this point and the river being a total dud. if they raise then we probably fold unless we have a read or prior knowledge that they are capable.
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