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05-26-2017 , 02:11 PM
I'm playing mostly tourists. The few regs I do play are probably not good or observant enough to notice if I bet 3/4 pot or 1/2 pot in a certain spot. Balance is lol at 1/2 in Vegas, especially since I plan on phasing out 1/2 and playing just 1/3 and hopefully 2/5 before end of summer.
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05-26-2017 , 02:48 PM
It is an odd bet, because stationy players would get scared of you having some kind of Ace rag hand that is going to make two pair, so they would check river to you in case you raise the river.

so if he is value betting, he really only has AA, 88, or mayyyybe 66. But as described, opening 66 in early position pre seems unlikely.

tough spot, because stationy players would hardly ever bluff here either, thinking that you are going to call the river with any ace.

as played, I would muck it. but I don't mind a call.
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05-29-2017 , 05:27 PM
I folded. He flips over 77 and said he knew someone had an ace so he had to bet hard to get them off. Weird logic and especially weird check on flop on an 864 flop. Ed Miller and pretty much everyone says fold fold fold at 1/2 and 1/3 but maybe that advice needs to get looked at again. I feel like especially with guys in their 20s and 30s there's more aggression in 2017.
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05-29-2017 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat
Ed Miller and pretty much everyone says fold fold fold at 1/2 and 1/3 but maybe that advice needs to get looked at again. I feel like especially with guys in their 20s and 30s there's more aggression in 2017.
Do you really think that or are you just being results oriented? Had he flipped over AK here would you be questioning Ed's logic? Not saying you're right or wrong it just seems like you're making that statement under the wrong circumstances.
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05-29-2017 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick71491
Do you really think that or are you just being results oriented? Had he flipped over AK here would you be questioning Ed's logic? Not saying you're right or wrong it just seems like you're making that statement under the wrong circumstances.
I'm have 160 something hours in Vegas and I've seen more bluffs than I expected. I'm not saying they generally bluff. I'm saying it's more than you think.
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05-29-2017 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
ummm im not trolling. i really try not to call raises preflop unless the player is totally spewy. just fold AQs here, its not that great of a hand to be calling an EP raise from MP.

i should rephrase instead of good enough to call good enough to 3bet make that if you want to play this or any hand take the lead in the pot. especially against one opponent. if you had a pocket pair or suited connector in late position with multiple other preflop callers then its correct to call. if the raiser was in MP and you were in LP i could see calling with AQs but still you should probably be 3betting too. but EP raise to 7x i would just let AQs go here. from my experience everything you described in your OP this seems like a losing call preflop.

and i don't expect to get 3bet by worse than AQ here but you are in MP so there are more players left behind who can 3bet when they do have AK, QQ+ so it should be a consideration. if theres 5 people left to act the chance that someone has one of those hands is around 10% i think so definitely not negligible.

and for the record i am a significant winner, i know what im doing and you should get better

The fact that this post is getting trashed is funny. This is so spot on it's not even funny. It's a preflop fold. 3betting is next best slightly -EV. Calling is the worst. Call range here is JJ+ and AKs/o, no need to balance a cold call range here with like idk A5s since get real this is 1/2 live.
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