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I looked at stove and think this is a bit more of a call. It's also a question of br, since you're taking a 60-40 (or possible flip) for 150 BB. perhaps I've also had too many maniacs crush me in these situations (whether by having it this time or by getting drawn out).

It's only 75bb more and there's 38bb ish in the

It's been said in a few other threads and I'm not the one who "created" this idea just continuing it in the right spots... if you called it's a great spot to show your cards even if you don't have to. All of the non maniacs at the table might decide to loosen up against you and it should pay off later.

This is actually a real cool hand and a tuff dilemma.

Its easy enough for me to prove that AQ is a favorite straight up here forgetting about pot laying odds etc.

However, at lower limit NLH teh speech is usually a total monster. Wow, the math says easy game/call, the logic to me says call, and his speech makes me jerk back on the hand brakes.

I think if he is a true maniac, i will go ahead and give a maniac credit to be able to do anything ---AND SAY ANYTHING----and it mean nothing. So I call.

If normal player made that speech I would fold some really strong hands.

Obviously you know that against a maniac AQo is the stone cold nuts and you should be shipping this hand every which way from Sunday, and obviously you know that the behavior you've described is indicative of some huge strength tells, so the question becomes, which takes priority. There's no "right" answer to this in the general sense.

So if we're really looking for a good reason to deviate from the obvious standard stats-based play (just jam it), I ask myself the following questions:

- Is villain's behavior reliably indicative of strength, or is he erratic enough that we can't make that read? Is he mentally unstable, or high? Or is he a lucid person that's possibly tilting and sating a gambling addiction?

- Even if villain's strength tell is genuine, is he going to be thinking he has the nuts with hand we beat? With hands we're flipping against?

I think in this spot we can maybe find the equation for a fold if the cards align, but it's pretty much impossible to say that jamming is a mistake. Villains like this will usually give off a few additional tells if we sweat them, and I'm also keeping an eye on V1 since we have no reason to believe he's done with the hand, assuming he's not asleep at the switch.

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Pretty easy shove, no? We want to get the other guy out of the hand and get this HU against ATC/2 maniac with a little dead money in the pot that helps in cases where we are on the bad side of a coin flip.

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Thanks for the responses fellows. This is one of the few times I can say that this is a regular who is also a complete maniac. So, AintnoLmiit's post was spot on for me during the hand. My immediate thought was shove shove shove, then I thought about his speech and slowed down. I wasn't as worried about the player behind because I didn't think he was capable of limp call, shoving a monster. Anyway, results in spoiler if you care to see.

+1 really all that needs to be said.

v1 is truley a weak player