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(6 Max/Handed, Straddled $5 OTB, SRP)

(MP) Hero $625: 88
(UTG) AGRO Villain $330:
I'd say his stats would prolly be 75/25/30... Very high AFQ calls way too much but smashes flops (literally) this guy isn't a LAG (he almost never raises often enuf to be considered to be) he is a maniac/spew machine postflop though

Preflop: Sb folds, BB folds, UTG limps for 5, Hero raises to 20, CU calls 20 (loose passive villain), Button folds, UTG calls 20, (3-ways to the flop, Pot = 60)


Flop, Pot = 60 (3)
245
UTG x, Hero bets 40, CU folds, UTG calls (HU to the turn)


Turn, Pot = 140 (2)
T
UTG x, Hero bets 75, UTG x-raises to 175 (has about 100 behind), Hero...?


Bet/Fold or Pot Control (less likely to bet/fold often vs. this villain given his wide raising ranges)... & Call Any Non-Draw Completing Rivers if Xed through OTT?
Given some past history this villain perceives me to be capable of making folds/some over-folds and will bluff me in particular.

Given the way this villain views my range in this hand (he isn't a total rec, does think of ranges black/white and perceives me to fold a decent amount) im trying to think whether his line is for value or a bluff...

I think i need to take into account my perceived range, how often villain bluffs flop vs. turn (the less often he bluffs, the less often we can bluff catch), and what his other ranges look like OTF...


OTF when i bet, i can have any FD and a bunch of overpairs in my range and when v x-calls he can have all draws, combo draws, + pairs in his range which we beat.
Given the way villain views my range i expect him to x-raise the flop for value way more often then the turn in that we wouldn't fold most of our range facing a x-raise OTF IP & he always expects us to bet this flop for value. In addition, i don't think he would slowplay this flop texture and most likely has a unbalanced/weak x-calling range. I think we bet a lot of draws OTF (any FD) and we wouldn't necessarily double barrel that frequently...

Given his flop folding, x-calling, and x-raising ranges here i think that his x-calling range is the weakest/most unbalanced therefore OTT nothing changes pretty much and i thought i could exploit him by making a call with the bottom of my range...

It looks like a value raise. It doesn't look like he's trying to maximize his FE, thus I think it's probably a fold. Generally, when loose passive Vs take the betting lead they have a hand that they like which would crush your range, particularly when you've shown strength by betting two streets. But is this V really loose passive? This hand doesnt seem like it at all.

I'm not sure if I like the turn bet. I think it's hard for most of the hands we're beating to call...

He's not a loose passive he is a maniac post... very high AFQ, but rarely ever raises a wide range of hands preflop...

Honestly against V's like this I usually forget range analysis and say "lol I haz pair. Call." Against a villain who often takes polarizing lines unbalanced towards bluffs you can turn your entire value betting range into a bluff catcher when raised. You conveniently beat all of his bluffs except T3, Thxh. I probably wouldn't call down all the way with A-high because of all of the pair+draw type hands he can have that 88 beats.

The alternative way to play this hand would be to check back the turn and call/bet 100% of rivers except an 8 which you shove obviously. Bluffcatching the river should be highly profitable. IMO your hand is too good to pot control if he calls the flop and turn wide, though. I'd take this line with a hand that can't get value like Ax, 33.

Bump...

So i found a thread i viewed months ago (totally forgot about it) and yeah it brought up some good points between bet/folding or pot control...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...-turn-1137872/

Results of the hand btw...