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1/2 5h4h in BB 1/2 5h4h in BB

05-21-2017 , 12:51 PM
Hero $160- pretty solid, won a few hands at showdown, a few before showdown. Opened every hand played, limp/raised a couple. Folding most hands. Might seem a little tight.

Villain $400- mid 30s, EXTREMELY loose, has been playing hands like 75o utg just to "donate" to the table. Makes some folds when he has absolutely nothing. But also has won hands with Ace High. Been very lucky on suck outs to the river, etc. Playing everything to see flop no matter if its a limped pot or opened for $10-$20 .


Hero in BB - 51/2 5h4h in BB 41/2 5h4h in BB

5 limpers

Sb-opens to $4

Hero calls

Utg (villain) raises to $10

4 callers

Hero calls ..


Flop is 81/2 5h4h in BB 61/2 5h4h in BB Q1/2 5h4h in BB ($57)

SB bets $10

hero calls

Utg calls



Turn 8s ($87)

SB checks

Hero checks

Utg bets to $15

SB fold

hero calls


River 9h ($117)

Hero checks

Utg bets $25

Hero jams ($125)

Villain calls with QQ.



AP, should I have just called the river bet?

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05-21-2017 , 01:00 PM
Regarding whether you should just call the river or not: what do you think villains callingrange is on the river when you check-jam allin? Do you think you can get payed off by worse?

I am asking, because you was there with him and have the observations on how he plays. Some villains spews off when betting themself, some spews off by bluffing a ton, or some spews off by being a crazy callingstation.
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05-21-2017 , 01:16 PM
You should have folded pf when the SB raised pf. A lot of people fall for the "it is just $2 trap, so I'll call from anywhere and anything" leak. You'll find you'll do a lot better when you start playing like a LAG in position and a Nit oop.

As played, obvious trap was successful and you walked into it. You got suckered into falling for an absolute vs. relative strength dilemma . By itself, a flush is a pretty strong hand. On a paired board where the FD was there on the flop, the second nut low flush is at best a bluff catcher. By the river, you probably have to call, but you should have never got to the river.

On the bright side, he'll remember how he got paid off for 6 months and continue to allow people to walk away cheap.
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05-21-2017 , 02:46 PM
I'm not folding pre-flop. The hand seems pretty standard until the river given you're against a station who 3-bet pre-flop. On the river I'd consider a donk jam, but once you check and he bets it's a really obvious jam. Calling the river would be absolutely horrendous against a calling station, and even pretty bad against tighter and better players given the very small sizings leading up to the river.
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05-21-2017 , 03:04 PM
ya pre flop is a little loose but not horrible. You should of just folded for the extra $2 - you aren't very deep - and the hand gets you into trouble.


Flop I am defiantly leading this. You don't gain a lot of information by check calling, and your hand plays pretty face up. You can check raise if you want, but you really aren't deep enough so you kinda have to go with it if you go this route. It's high variance but you get better to fold, and you are almost never drawing dead.

Turn is probably a fold with your stack size. Even though you are getting insane odds, you just won't get paid off if you hit and you could be drawing dead. Turns out you had 1 out.

River sucks, you are gonna lose some money on that one.
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05-21-2017 , 03:43 PM
3b big pre to like 25-30

As played jam flop
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