I know it's bad to Cbet 3-way or more but I'm wondering if this is one of those boards where we can:

Stacks: SB-300, BB-250, Hero-300, BTN-300

1/2, BTN straddles 5, SB and BB call, Hero raises 25 with AdJh, BTN, SB and BB call

Flop ($100): 223ssc
Check, Check, Hero ??

All 3 villains seem to be loose tourists playing every hand, esp BTN.. I've been at table around 15 mins and it's the first hand I've raised..

No. If you want to bet AJ, at least have As, minimum Js although just giving up with Js

Pre should be at least $30, preferably $35 or this kind of stuff 10-way pot happens

Yeah, I realized pre should've been $30+.

So you're check/giving up all high cards without a spade atleast in this spot?

Its fine to bet here. Also I wouldnt cbet very often 4 way, bit 3 way is totally fine.

Ummmm...yeah. bet non spade turns too

I check. No one is folding a pocket pair or spade draw. Obviously no one is folding a 2, and maybe not a 3. You're ahead of everything else (though all the other hands are live). If BTN bets, you can see how others react to it and evaluate, and if it checks through maybe you bink a pair on the turn.

Main reason to bet is to get everyone to fold their non-pair, non-spade draw equity. That's not nothing but not worth the downside IMO.

I don't like a c-bet here. You can expect to get called by any pair and any draw. Besides their biggest mistake is calling too much and you want them to fold. I'd rather let one of them bet and see what kind of price I'm getting when it comes back around to me. Their second biggest mistake is not betting enough and that's the one I want to take advantage of here.

Couldn't imagine not betting this flop vs 3 seemingly loose tourists. They might even "put you on AK" but this is a hard flop to hit. Isn't there a decent chance we have the best hand here, and just get 3 folds?

Exactly my thoughts. They mostly never have 2x. And 3x, PPs, spades will have a hard time continuing to double barrels on J or better turns. The remaining time, they'll just put the nitty Hero on a big pair and fold.

+1 but you have to bet turn. Most of the time you won't get 3 folds and that's ok, you're building a pot to steal it on the turn.

If I do Cbet. I would give up on most turns if the BTN calls. I would prob jam if only one of the blinds calls on good turns.

You shouldn't always be cbetting your (better) over card combos, you shouldn't always be checking. In this exact scenario where our villains are more loose and weaker players, I'd probably lean towards checking more often then betting because I think it gets through a much smaller % of the time and the pot is already decently inflated.

The times I bet I'm probably betting on the smaller side because I feel our opponents are not going to be exploiting us ever. Gauging how fit/fold our villains are is *very important* for our cbetting range and these kind of flops where it is unlikely that anyone improved and we likely have the best hand, but not amazing equity if the hand continues to be 4 way.

No,

The most mistakes the young players I see them make most is they call the reraise too much. I see it over and over and over again. I would say the danger for these young players in the way they play their hands is the fact that some of them have never gone bad before. So what you’re looking at when you see these young players, these young Internet guys, you’re seeing people who don’t know what it’s like to lose for a month. It’s never happened to them. You’re looking at hundreds or thousands of players who started and this is a handful that the cards ran over. Now they may have some talent — some of them may have talent at cards, but they don’t have any experience on the downside. You don’t really get to improve your game until you go bad. It changes you.

Another mistake that I see, they are predictable. I mean, they c-bet too much. I see how they c-bet into 3-4 players. It becomes already funny to see and even to expect them to c-bet. (LOL) Too much c-bet. No good.

As the type of "young player" that you mention repeatedly above, I can tell you that I absolutely love playing against somebody of your mindset. And you are very easy to pinpoint at the table. I'm not sure why you are negatively slighted towards young players, but I can guarantee you that most of these young players have a better win rate than you

Certainly a decent chance of this. However, while that's clearly a good result, because it cleans up our equity, getting hands we beat to fold isn't nearly as good as getting hand that we're behind to fold. The latter is very hard on this board unless you're prepared to double barrel and facing someone who can let go of a weak overpair.

Definitely overlimp pre.

Do not cbet this.

Ummm? I'd rather fold than limp this hand.

I misread you as being button, are you CO?

Its still a limp fwiw but a bit more speculative now.

Yeah - CO. Why do we want to give BTN an opportunity to squeeze here? Also, why do we want to play AJ like 33? It can easily get us in trouble on Ahi or Jhi flops with 96547 ppl in.

So I ran into this hand today with a similar situation:

UTG (200) opens to 10 at 1/2,
Hero UTG1 (covers) 3b to 25 with AdQh,
CO (200) and BTN (700) cold call, UTG calls

Flop ($100): 8d7d3c
Checks around

Turn ($100): 9d
UTG bets $45, Hero ??

Can we peel here with Ad and two possible overs?

Pretty easy peel on the turn. You're almost getting direct odds to draw to the flush, even if your overs are never good.

Oh, NO in the long run. In the short run, maybe if he lives in mother basement for free and have the cards run over his head. But not as a professional hard working man down there in the trenches along with us "the blue working class man", like the Joey Knish the grinder from "Rounders" movie. That type of player that pays his life from playing cards every day. He's the man I'm talking about.

In live no-limit a competent working player will make up to 10-11bb/hour over a large sample size. I know exactly how to measure win rate. yes, in couple month you can go broke or be about 20bb/hour but that is not sustainable. 10bb/hour is the most accurate number.
1/2 game = $20/hour
1/3 game = $25/hour
2/5 game = $40/hour
5/10 game = $80/hour
10/20 game = $175/hour with the best conditions in the easiest games

At least this is the standard measuring unit for Vegas pros. Anybody that tells you differently is lying. The bigger the game the win rate tend to slide a little down to self adjust to an equilibrium. The best masters of the game cannot go over these limits of income.

And here is what's gonna be going on with a great player:
You have a chance to play a big pot about three times per hour. You flop a set, have the nut flush draw+pair, hit your straight. Most of these times a big pot does not pan out because the opponent doesn't have a hand. It takes two big hands for a big pot. Now, every other hour or so, you play a big pot again. You are ahead when you put your money in. You know you don't always win. Some of these you win and some rare occasion, you lose.

Now, the bad part is that when you go card dead, when the draws go in the muck, AK misses 2 out of 3 times, your stack and profits slowly melt away until you hit your average theoretical hourly rate.

You can play TAG and this is what you get, three chances an hour and one big pot every other hour. You can play LAG and increase the chances, but your ups and downs be a lot bigger and based upon our local Vegas pros experience the results will be the same if you can read opponent's hand and soul, else, worse. Taking into account the sometime long dry months, being card dead, and lock of 300bb deep stacks or more in every game, we can say with certainty 10-11bb/hour in smaller game and a little less in the big blinds game.

Almost all young players including yourself suffer from a common malady – they overestimate the effect of luck in the long run and underestimate luck in the short run. While anyone who is losing after 500 hours is probably kidding themselves when they blame their bad cards, because it is much more likely they are not playing well enough to win, on the other hand, even the best players in the world have occasional losing streaks overall. I expect to lose about one out of every three sessions. Now I’ve heard it said that the successful person should have enough confidence so that he assumes that he will win like 80-90% of the games he plays. But that is silly. What he should assume is that he will play his best every time he plays. However, even perfect play combined with GTO for a human player will result in a win rate of only about 66-70% in all but the easiest games.

Anyway, I suspect you believe and think that live poker is too much like TV poker. It's not. Good poker is dull and predictable. Much more like bingo than you think. You're not going to make money by making slick plays and elaborate bluffs. You do make money by playing solid aggressive smart, in position, and value betting solid hands. You should be happy to fold when they tell you you are beat. You need cards, flops and smart plays to make in NL.

This what a good professional is making with a lot of hard work in the process.

He bet 1/2P OTT. How does it give me direct odds to hit flush ??