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Old 06-28-2012, 05:19 PM   #1
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1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

1/2/3 at Garden City Casino in San Jose.

Straddled pot to $6, one caller to hero (HJ), hero calls $6 with 64 from the CO. Straddler had straddled a few times without raising the straddle, so I felt a call wouldn't be raised.

SB calls, BB calls, straddle checks.

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SB: Hadn't seen him get too out of line. Started hand with ~100.
HJ: Nitty. Didn't play too many hands pre, and made some nitty folds post (folded 99 face up on an 832 rainbow board to a c-bet, folded JJ on a Qxx board to a pretty aggro player). Started hand with ~200.
Hero: Covers.

Flop (32): 257

SB leads out for 15, BB and straddle fold, HJ raises to 45. Hero?

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Old 06-28-2012, 05:55 PM   #2
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Re: 1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

tank-shove. you should be very comfortable committing against sb (SPR about 3) and still pretty comfortable committing against hj (SPR about 7). you are also comfortable charging the max for flush draws and sets and there are a lot of scare cards that could kill action on the turn. just get it in. if one of them has you beat, so be it.

also, if you're playing with a bunch of players like the villains in this hand who look like they may play fit or fold, you can raise the limpers in this hand PF. if they play fit or fold post-flop, you will take down a lot of pots with c-bets.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:56 PM   #3
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Re: 1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

If you cold call his raise you're hand is going to look very strong. With his stack size and CO's measly $100 Im likely just jamming. If he has us beat so be it, but he's still going to call with sets.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:06 PM   #4
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Re: 1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

Shove all day.
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:20 PM   #5
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Re: 1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

I would have raised preflop. There's dead money and a single fit/fold player in the pot. Let's take it down now, or isolate, cbet, drag it, and buy a hot dog.

With the straddle on, we're playing a 33 BB pot and have just flopped a flush. Pretty easy ship. Plus we's got our straightflush outs going for us.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:44 PM   #6
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Re: 1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

dont like pre as played shove
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:47 PM   #7
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Re: 1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

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dont like pre as played shove
You think I should make it like 30 or so pre? Or fold?
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:06 AM   #8
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Re: 1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

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You think I should make it like 30 or so pre? Or fold?
fold, i dont mind a call here if the pot was a little more bloated from other limpers but when we open it with a limp to the HJ and BTN we are going to get raised off our hand a lot.

that being said I highly endorse open raising in limped or straddle limped pots with marginal hands like K4s or A3o Q9o **** like that, but the purpose of doing this is to get hands that have already limped (limping ranges) to call us and then we can play a pot where we are roughly even money in all in EV however we have position and betting lead.

the problem with raising here is there is no one who has already limped, and 2 people behind us who may have been planing to raise will just call our raise and thats ---EV for us
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:17 AM   #9
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Re: 1/2/3 flopped flush with up and down SF draw facing action

monster jam
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