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Old 02-04-2012, 07:40 PM   #31
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Re: TT pressurize on monotone flop?

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So you raise the flop for no reason whatsoever and now hit a card that you don't know what to do on...

OK, I'll be serious. I'd bet the turn as a bluff.
I bet the turn and was called.

the river came a blank I bet the river.

opponent folded AJ face up and said " I knew you had a flush but I had to call you because I could of made a full house.

No I knew exactly what I was doing I was repping a flush and I continued to do so from flop to river.

in other words I was betting he didn't have a club and would fold to continued pressure. he was a dog to have a club and he didn't have one. my having a club or a hand of any kind whatsoever was completely irrelevant to the play. and I was rewarded justifiably.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:43 PM   #32
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you're the best
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:47 PM   #33
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There should be tons of other spots to extract value, IMO.
agreed there are esp against players who have little knowledge of card probability and doggedly adhere to preconceived notions about the game and how it can be played.lots of times its not about the cards you hold. but about what they think you may hold. Id bet if I didnt tell I had red tens and played the hand from fishes point of view many would of recommended folding to the turn bet. maybe even the flop raise.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:49 PM   #34
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How do you know he donks 37% monotone flops with an A on board against MP raisers, 3 handed?

I'd approach it like this: what is the range of hands he donks this flop with?. I'd write it down and get the equity of TT (since you appear to be showdown bound). SB was still to act too (you can use the 37% for his random FD holding with some weak aces in there)



If you think you are ahead of course you should bet, but we are in a very tight spot. If he has us crushed, 14 or 12 outs he's calling. In the super rare case he had 8x no draw he's folding.
it has nothing to do with how often he donks and everything to do with how often he has one club or two and how often he will fold to continued pressure on the flop and beyond.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:43 PM   #35
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Re: TT pressurize on monotone flop?

I think I got dumber reading this thread.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:43 AM   #36
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No I knew exactly what I was doing I was repping a flush and I continued to do so from flop to river.

in other words I was betting he didn't have a club and would fold to continued pressure. he was a dog to have a club and he didn't have one. my having a club or a hand of any kind whatsoever was completely irrelevant to the play. and I was rewarded justifiably.
And so the 2/3 of the time a 4th club doesn't come by the river you're putting in 3 BB to try to win <6 BB (due to rake)?

And this doesn't even cover the times he has a club. Or he doesn't and he calls you anyway.
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Old 02-05-2012, 08:47 AM   #37
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it has nothing to do with how often he donks and everything to do with how often he has one club or two
By ignoring the actions he's taken you assume he's playing without looking at his cards!

Many mentioned how you are crushed most of the time and you insist that firing 3BBs is the correct play. I guess you were right, perfect play. What was the point of the thread again?
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:07 AM   #38
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What was the point of the thread again?
An inflated sense of ego, ldo.
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Old 02-05-2012, 10:15 AM   #39
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Oh, I missed this thread. I'll lock.
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