Couldn't figure out if Villain was bad or a good LAG. He was playing like 40/20 at 6-max. He was spamming the chat complaining about beats etc, something usually only fish do. But he didn't do any limping or cold calling of raises and he had direct position on a whale and was 3-bet iso-ing the **** out of him, with good hands to iso a whale with. Still he did a lot of seemingly bad stuff post flop. Like one hand he raised CO with K8o, I 3-bet him OTB with A9o, then he c/r on A33, bet 4 turn then check/called 5 river. And I'd been fairly snug and hadn't shown down a bluff vs anybody in 100+ hands.

If he's paying attention, he should view me as TAG, maybe nitty, as I started out pretty card dead. And FWIW I'd never raise/folded any street previously in this session, vs anyone.

So anyway the hand:

Hero opens UTG w/ A Q

Folds to Villain in BB, he calls.

Flop K 3 4

Villain check raises, Hero calls.

Turn 8

Villain bets, Hero calls.

River A

Villain bets, Hero raises, Villain 3-bets, Hero folds

He's repping the flush fairly convincingly but I think he could also play lots of other hands that beat me this way, like A3/A4/K3/K4/K8 maybe AK/A8/sets etc. Hard to come up with a value hand that I beat though, so I have to put him on a total airball. Unfortunately, from his unorthodox playing style, he might just be crazy enough to have 56 or something. Who knows. Didn't seem like a profitable call though.

And if you're going to say don't raise if you aren't going to call the 3-bet, consider the hand I shared above. He's going to pay off that raise with probably any pair.

Thoughts on any of that appreciated.

I'd call the river. I'm not even sure that I'd raise Aces up on this river.

You're on bodog? Welcome to DrElo. Closer to a 4 bet than a fold against a HUHU genius.

I think you played it fine.

CO-BTN dynamic in the example hand is very different from UTG-BB dynamic. The first involves a wide ranges and a lot of stealing-restealing. The latter involves someone with a dominating range. The fact that BB xr'ed flop should be alarming. The river bet should be alarming. So should the river 3b.

Fail

We know he'll CR air, so the flop does not narrow his range to a flush draw.

If he bluffed flop with an ace he might be crazy enough to 3! the river with a weaker ace one out of eleven times. I'd call and find out what kind of crazy he is.

Close decision here, but I agree with Bill Hayward, he might just be crazy. Alternatively, he might be smart enough to realize that against a player like you he has a better than 1 in 4.5 chance of making you fold.

Given these possibilities, and the fact that AQ is close to the top of your range, you should call.

It disturbs me that you may be applying his play in a CO v BTN spot to a UTG v BB spot.

why are we raising the river??

why are we raising the river??

So he calls worth worse??

So he calls with worse??

Just call river his bet is very polarizing as most of his semi flop bluffs spike the river so alot of the time he either made his hand or was already there. Since is capable of having pure bluffs in this spot or even turning value hands into bluffs to get value from draws or get you off better hands i would just call. Even folding is a better option but raising is the worst option imo. He is for the most part never folding.

Snap call?

Someone betting this river is quite alarming. I'm calling.

FWIW, if I was villain, this would be a perfect card to x/r a hand like K4s, 33, and 65, but I think he's more likely to just bet these hands.

Call me drunk, but I think it takes a certain je ne sais quoi to make this play correctly. I know that I'd usually bet these hands unless I'm actually thinking while I play, in which case I'd be thinking "this hand is too good to bet call but not good enough to bet 3 bet, thus I check raise."

So yeah go ahead and value bet against me without fear of a raise cus I'm hardly ever thinking on that level.