sounds like plan 2 me

grunch

Itsy - you gotta bet (folding to a raise) this turn man. That's your card bro - especially when everybody loves to brilliantly hand read: "hez always haz AK ldo" haha

Words of wisdom.

It's true that everyone knows that you don't want to play "weak tight". But sometimes, "weak tight" is the right play. The check-fold should definitely be a part of every poker player's toolkit, and this includes in some situations where you were the aggressor.

That said, I think if you have opponents who fold a lot, you should represent this ace for the reasons Doug said. If you don't, it's a check-fold.

Having (partially) agreed with DougL on the turn, let me disagree a little on the flop.

We are out of position and this is exactly the sort of drawy flop where a c-bet into two players is going to have little fold equity unless we are prepared to fire multiple barrels. If you don't like c-betting 100 percent 3-ways, this is actually a fine spot to x/c one bet.

Cbet getting 6 to 1. Good.
Turn. Pot is 4 large. Costs you 1 bet. If they fold 20% to that bet then you break even. (4*.2 = .8 <> .8*1 = .8). This is a good spot and getting a reaasonable price to attempt another bet. This card is going to look quite scary to your enemies. Expect them to play 'honestly' here.

A little surprised this thread has arisen from the dead. . .

Actually, one of the things that I have thought about a lot since I first made this post was to stop worrying so much about what my actual cards are, and think more about what my cards are going to look like to villian. I have been really surprised how often just knowing that I played a hand consistent with a particular scare card will be enough to pick up a good spot to bluff. Which I guess is a fancy way of saying I really enjoyed "The Intelligent Poker Player," even if no one at my tables is ever consciously thinking about most of the concepts in that book =p

I agree with lawdude. At least at my level (4-8) I think this line generally works the best.

My contention is that the vast majority of 4/8 players can't identify situations to not cbet and thus should always do so.

And to be clear, i said i disagree only a little bit. I certainly don't think c-betting 100 percent 3 ways is going to cost a typical SSHE player any significant amount of money. It's a perfectly fine strategy.

This.

FYP

Seriously? Because people should look at minuscule leaks first? What you're saying sounds smart, but really ignores the entire point I'm trying to make.

+1

What would the best play be if the OP was bet into on the flop or the turn by the big? Would it be best to float the flop and fold the turn?

Similar hands happen all the time, raise PF with 2 big cards and the flop comes low. I know a lot of players (esp in the blinds) like to bet into the PF raiser with these kind of flops.

(I hope it is okay to ask this here, if not just let me know).

I think if I get bet into on the flop I call and re-evaluate the turn; on this particular turn, I probably just fold.

However, since I am going to bet basically 100% here, if a blind c/r me, I am probably calling the raise for the same reasons I am calling the donk. This is why if you're in the blind you want to c/r instead of betting out with a good hand as you get more of my monies.