This is a hand I played in an 8/16 game at canterbury park. The villain of this hand absolutely hates my guts for some reason. I have no idea why but he is always a complete dickhead to me and almost goes out of his way to prove said point. Anyway, hes a pretty bad playing lag who will spew on dry bored textures and is capable of folding hands and getting value out of his hand.

SO anyways.

This hand gets folded to me on the button. I raise q-10 in diamonds. Sb folds and my buddy in the big blind 3 bets. I call. (3.25 bb)

Flip: 9 5 2 Rainbow.

He bets I call (4.25) bb

Turn: q (competes rainbow) he bets i call

River 2 he bets I call.

So my question here is, is this hand more +EV to let him barrel off and me not valuetown myself when he has a better hand or is it a better play to raise the turn and hope to get a spite call from 66 to 1010 ak aj?

depends if you think he's going to barrel those hands again, or be able to fold the underpairs, or 3-bet bluff the turn (or river, should you wait to raise that -- with the board pairing I think he'll be less likely to 3-bet anything, worried you might have A2). Obviously the conservative option is to just call down and bet if checked to.

Raise the river.

i think he is going to fold most worse hands (any pair under 9s) and raise with better hands. Im 50 50 on what he would do with the overs/A high.

I was planning on raising a 10 river 100% but was pretty pretty skeptical if i was actually ahead or not.. kind of a way ahead/way behind situation in my mind.

+1

*G*

I guess it depends how certain you are that he'll 3barrel if you don't raise. He sounds like at least a little bit of a spew-bucket, though, so probably just calling turn is OK.

I'm at least a little inclined to raise the river, though.

FYP

Raise the river or the turn. I like river better because it gives him more chance to spew and less chance to fold.

raise the turn

raising river yuck

wat?

what makes you say that? isn't he going to fold a worse hand and only call with better ones?

no, he's going to call down lots of pocket pairs and ace highs and overcards, and maybe even semibluff or rebluff you, since you described him as a hateful lag

no one bluffraises rivers so by waiting til then you announce what you have and reduce his spew options

Haha "spew options."

But yeah raise the turn and let him go nuts against you.

Question: If you raise the turn, now that you have TPGK, and villain 3!'s, do you 4!, flat w/ intention of raising the river, or flat w/ intention of calling the river?

Or none of the above?

Grunch

I think by not raising the turn you're just loosing value period.

If he 3b you ott then you might be able to find a fold as this is indicative of AA KK QQ AQ QJ QK 99 etc - is he really going to 3b you with JJ 99 AK AJ here? Seriously especially given the dynamic? He's thinking along the same lines you are --- HATER! So he just wants to valuerape you just as much you you wanna do the same to him. Just ram it up his poopchute and show him who's daddy!

edit: I agree that raising he river is too fps. I think it's sexy pho sho and seems more like a dagger in the heart than raising ott but I think from a strict value perspective raising ott is better.