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05-16-2014 , 01:29 PM
for bay area folks, the prisoner is available at kl wine merchants...i'll be picking up a bottle next time i'm there, let me know if you'd like to get one for you.

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I cannot begin to tell you how flattered I'd be if this proves true.
Almost certainly going to be true. And I deserve 0.01% of the credit for starting it off
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05-17-2014 , 12:46 AM
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So yesterday I strolled into this wine store that I infrequently visit and started chatting with what seemed to be a "new guy" working there. I asked him if they had any Moolydookers and I must have seemed sad when he told me no. But he was pretty quick to ask me if I'd ever had the 19Crimes since I was apparently a fan of the Aussie wines and that it was a strong seller among repeat customers. I told him that I'd never heard of it so he gave me the soft sell and I bit. I wasn't disappointed.

The labels provide no hint as to what grapes constitute this wine, nor, surprisingly, does the winery's website. (Note that the label only identifies this as 2013 Red Wine.) I mean it's obviously got some Shiraz and a fair amount of Grenache but I'm at a loss as to what else it may or may not contain.

The nose wasn't a typical Aussie Shiraz. It was a bit more refined and considerably earthier. It didn't have that "kick-your-ass" fruit that the Aussie's seem to pride themselves upon, but more of a "here, enjoy this wine and come back for more" kind of taste. This was a relatively complex and long-finished wine and, given that I'm drinking the vestiges of last night's bottle, I'd have to say it held up remarkably well.

At $14 a bottle, this is like getting Manzel in the 4th round.

Taste: 8.9/10

Value:

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I really enjoyed this wine when I had it a few weeks back. I've been trying more Aussies lately because a friend of mine is in love with them. They're growing on me as well.

19 Crimes is a blend of the following grapes: Shiraz, Pinot Noir, Grenache and Cabernet Sauvignon.

A must try Aussie is the '12 Oakridge 864 Pinot Noir. While fruity, this wine is very robust and keeps delivering different notes throughout. It can be a bit difficult to find since it's a small lot, it is definitely worth the hunt. A bottle will run ~$75-$100
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05-17-2014 , 08:57 AM
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19 Crimes is a blend of the following grapes: Shiraz, Pinot Noir, Grenache and Cabernet Sauvignon.
Thanks… and thanks for joining the thread.

The Pinot explains the earthiness in the nose and the Cab (which I sorta suspected) explains the additional- and welcomed- complexity of the wine.

I might have to bump my value rating to getting Manziel in the 5th.
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05-17-2014 , 07:07 PM
FYI for the local guys -- the '12 educated guess is $15 at Nob Hill if you buy 6 bottles+ (30% discount). I think u can mix and match.
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05-18-2014 , 12:43 AM
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Thanks… and thanks for joining the thread.

The Pinot explains the earthiness in the nose and the Cab (which I sorta suspected) explains the additional- and welcomed- complexity of the wine.

I might have to bump my value rating to getting Manziel in the 5th.
My friend from Cleveland threw the remote when they took him. Just saying.
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05-18-2014 , 07:21 PM
Tonight it's going to be a Seghesio Vermentino. I've had a few Seghesio Zins which have ranges from decent to very good. I've never tried a vermentino, so I'm going in with no expectations at all. Will report back later.
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05-19-2014 , 08:32 PM
The Seghesio Zins have been a mixed bag for me. I strongly suspect the best of the their Zins don't make it this far East/South. The few bottles that I've had of the great ones have been great. The others have been a value.

I didn't realize they bottled a Vermentino and I'm interested in your notes on this wine. Specifically, how balanced and nuanced was the wine? There's likely a great deal of crisp, Pinot Grigio character, but did it have any of the traditional Chablis "chalkiness" or mineral character to it?
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05-20-2014 , 03:47 AM
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The Seghesio Zins have been a mixed bag for me. I strongly suspect the best of the their Zins don't make it this far East/South. The few bottles that I've had of the great ones have been great. The others have been a value.

I didn't realize they bottled a Vermentino and I'm interested in your notes on this wine. Specifically, how balanced and nuanced was the wine? There's likely a great deal of crisp, Pinot Grigio character, but did it have any of the traditional Chablis "chalkiness" or mineral character to it?
Never actually got around to cracking the Vermentino as we ended up with so many other things. Most likely this w/end, and will def include a write up.
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05-20-2014 , 08:31 PM
Rombauer zin
Great wine, $35?
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05-20-2014 , 09:43 PM
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Rombauer zin
Now that's a wine I haven't had in at least ten years. If memory serves, they were big wines (>15% alcohol) and loaded with fruit. Will definitely look for one and review. Thanks, mate.
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05-22-2014 , 12:03 AM
Was able to acquire a bottle (well, 5 bottles actually) of the 19 Crimes locally.

Wow, this wine just explodes with fruit into your mouth upon first sip. Not a lot of subtlety, just a fruit firework of seemingly 10 different flavors. You get a secondary (and third?) wave after swallowing. The finish dissipates fairly quickly, but the wine is quite tasty so it just encourages you to quickly take another swallow.

Solid wine, and I like it better than the Immortal Zin. I got it for $10.80/bottle, so maybe like Manziel as a walk-on? Great suggestion leo doc!
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05-22-2014 , 12:38 PM
I appreciate that you're keeping the source embargoed, until i've had a chance to get to it
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05-22-2014 , 03:41 PM
I tried googling DaveCo liquors and 19 crimes -- All of the hits were news stores about the tax evasion charges vs. the owners. Applejacks has it for $10.99/bottle.
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05-23-2014 , 01:37 AM
So there's a high-end organic grocery store chain here on the west coast called Whole Foods. There was one next to the gas station I was getting gas in, and I heard they had a good wine selection, so I decided to stop by.

They had 19 Crimes, Educated Guess, The Prisoner, Rombauer Zin, and for good prices. I was expecting high prices (Whole Foods is known for being on the pricey side), but the 19 Crimes was $12, the Rombauer Zin was on sale for $27... plus, if you buy 6 bottles+ they give you a 10% discount. They even threw in a 6-bottle carrier for free, so I'm going to say the shopping trip was a success.

Check it out if there's a store near you!
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05-23-2014 , 01:16 PM
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They had 19 Crimes, Educated Guess, The Prisoner, Rombauer Zin, and for good prices. I was expecting high prices (Whole Foods is known for being on the pricey side), but the 19 Crimes was $12, the Rombauer Zin was on sale for $27... plus, if you buy 6 bottles+ they give you a 10% discount. They even threw in a 6-bottle carrier for free, so I'm going to say the shopping trip was a success.
I like it when a plan comes together. I bought all of the above yesterday- altho the Rombauer was $32- and found the new 2013 releases of Mollydooker. Here's what I had last night.





This wine is simply the essence of Merlot. It's not complex, nor is it refined. It's just a powerhouse of fruit-packed wine that I can't believe is drinking this well, this soon. I'm amazed that Sarah and Sparky continue to craft wines of this caliber for less than $30 a bottle.

The nose on this wine foreshadows the palate. It's like grabbing a cluster of the grapes, squishing them in a closed fist and then taking a whiff. The color is purple with a ruby ring around the top of the pour. Then you get to drink some of this stuff.

Wow! What a luscious and long-lived wine on the palate. I could say that it has a blackberry and currant taste, but really this is just what a ripe Merlot should be. If I was gonna do a seminar on identifying the grapes that were used in a given wine, I'd choose this one for showcasing Merlot.

Taste: 9.3/10

Value: + 1/2

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05-23-2014 , 01:23 PM
I'll be reviewing these over the next several days.


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05-23-2014 , 03:12 PM
I think there is a theme here, but I just can't put my finger on it.
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05-23-2014 , 04:15 PM
Theme= leo Doc likes wine!?
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05-23-2014 , 07:05 PM
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I think there is a theme here, but I just can't put my finger on it.
A Primer on the 2013 Mollydookers.

(You'll hear it here first.)
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05-23-2014 , 07:10 PM
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I'll be reviewing these over the next several days.


just beautiful.
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05-23-2014 , 07:19 PM
I think this thread should be stickied. It's probably the most useful/best theread on the site and I hate when I'm trying to find it but it's not on front page (and I'm
Not logged on my phone for subscriptions).
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05-23-2014 , 07:59 PM
$12 for a bottle of wine at Whole Paycheck? That's probably cheaper than a bottle of grape juice at that store.
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05-23-2014 , 11:51 PM
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$12 for a bottle of wine at Whole Paycheck? That's probably cheaper than a bottle of grape juice at that store.
I'm 99% sure their wine buyer reads this thread to figure out what to stock at the store.
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05-25-2014 , 02:36 PM
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$12 for a bottle of wine at Whole Paycheck? That's probably cheaper than a bottle of grape juice at that store.
This,

On the West Coast they call it Whole Paycheck. On the East Coast they call it Whole Mortgage.
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05-25-2014 , 11:41 PM
Never had a molly and none of the local wine merchants seem to carry it. Any internet sellers recommended?
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