hey all,

I'm a NL player trying to learn this wacky high variance limit stuff for some reason. I'll probably post a couple more of these just to get a grasp of adjustments i need to be making. Sorry if the hands seem super basic, I'm learning

Live 5/10 Limit

Villian: middle aged standard loose passive. Doesn't raise with QQ, sees 70% of flops, havn't seen him raise with less than 2 pair.

Pre flop:

5 limpers including Villian in MP, hero is Button with A2 of diamonds, Hero calls.

Flop(30): 7s8sJc

checks around to Hero who checks

Turn(30): Ah

UTG bets 10, UTG +1 calls, UTG +2 calls, Villian calls, Hero Calls

River(80): Ks

Check, check, check, Vilian bets 10

hero?

do i have to call here getting 9:1 with top pair?

With your read on villain, it sure looks like UTG is checking an ace since the flush came in and your loose passive villain is betting his rivered flush. You'd likely only be calling hoping to chop with A2-A6, and hero calls for half the pot (in the best-case scenario) aren't really a good idea. So fold.

fold. wa/wb. flush and straights come in on river. I would of never just called the turn I would of raised it, to get a fre river if the "sacre cards came in. with two caller after the turn bet, flush and straight is higly likely. FOLD the river you still ahve to people behind you in which case if they raise you just set at least one bet on fire.

Grunch

Pre flop, I'm torn between raise and fold (raise due to skill edge on field, fold due to awful RIO of hand). Never just call here, you won't get paid off enough if no one else has an ace to balance out the money you can expect to lose if someone else has a bigger ace.

River, just fold. Trust your read and expect him to show a bigger ace or a made flush.

Turn is also questionable. What's the read on UTG? If this a player who could be b/f'ing a jack? If so, you should raise. If he almost always has top pair plus, you should fold. If he is at all balanced, I think calling is fine. However, given villain limped UTG, he probably sucks and won't value bet a jack here, and almost always has an ace. So, I think a case can be made to fold right here.


Side note, in SSLHE, place more value on hands with big potential, and less value on hands with good unimproved showdown equity. 76s is a much better hand multiway than A2s, IMO, because it's easier to play, and you're much more likely to get paid off when your monster hits. Oh, and you won't pay someone to see their better hand.

Honestly I'm tempted to fold ott....

Uh-Oh, I'm not sure I agree with a lot of the responses so far.

PF-- As where I would raise 88 or possibly 77 here, Ima limping this one. It's tempting to try and push our small equity advantage with 5 to 6 players, but this hand can be a lot tougher to play. (Same reason I don't raise A/8o here.)

OTT I'm also leaning towards a fold, but it depends on player. Player who is scared to bet TP OTF suddenly decides to now bet 2np pair OTT after one of the worse cards in the deck pops off? Naw. We're beat here. Even getting 6 to 1 I want to fold.

OTR-Done and done. You're in 3rd place at best.

Playing sslhe you're going to have to get comfortable showing down hands that you wouldn't in NL, but that doesn't mean you start lighting money on fire OTR. It doesn't matter how good your pot odds are if your hand is never good. Your hand is almost never good here. Ima folding.

What good does overlimping A2 do here other than make the hand equally difficult to play well, and make it more likely that opponents will fire? Why not just fold it?

I don't feel that strongly about folding.

I think we can wring enough profit out of it when we hit a favorable flop, so I prefer to limp in. We have something like 2% edge here and there are a bunch of villains so Ima going for it.

I just don't like raising here. Villains are not going to fold A/x to you when you raise pf. The extra monies you get by pushing your couple of % edge PF are probably cancelled out by the higher likelihood of you value-towning yourself when one of your opponents mubs up with A/X post-flop because you came in raising.

Limping pf here isn't bad at all especially if we are otb. If we are in mp or even Co with a lag oor then I can see folding.

If we are gonna play this we HAVE to be able to get away from tp ... mb even 2p ... because we aren't gonna win a big pot these hands - we are gonna loose a good majority of the time (paying off a bigger kicker for example) . If I play A2s I want to win a big pot with a flush, a wheel or trip deuces. If I don't have any indication OTF that any of these is gonna happen I am really not interested in the pot when there's a thousand opponents in there to begin with.

This is close to the top of my limping range on the button. It's a monster compared to some of the hands I limp. RIO? No way. On the button we're receiving the best possible implied odds. If the limping crowd is at all aggressive then I'm raising preflop.

As played I fold the river.

Folding this hand preflop seems pretty bad. This hand is not hard to play and the RIO is definitely in our favour.

As played, my initial reaction was to just fold the turn, but it seems close. You can fold river given your read.