I want to raise the turn one more time and call down, but I reread what you said about villain. I think the 76s hand you played against his KK hand is telling. He didn't cap the flop because he might have been scared by the straight, but he raised the river when he moved ahead of 97. I don't know if that was his thought process, but it looks like he doesn't get crazy on the flop with one pair.

As such I doubt he's capping with KK, QQ, JJ or AK in this hand. It seems really weak to me but I think I want to call down from the turn, though at game speed I might raise/call.

Whoops. I didn't the response. I was only going for the preflop action.

In all honesty, I'd donk the turn and claim I'd slow down to a raise, but I'd probably 3! and call down on a cap at game speed.

we're on the button, so we're not going to have a chance to donk, but sitting at the table and seeing him cap the flop, I immediately started thinking about how best to get to showdown while still charging the drawing hands for drawing.

I hadn't actually thought it through completely until now, but at the table I decided that if we put in more than 3 bets OTT/OTR, the chances of me having the best hand started to decline dramatically. If he led the turn, I would have to raise, especially if there were any callers between us. If he 3!, then so be it, I'd call him down.

Thinking through it more clearly now, I've also decided that if, for some ridiculous reason, the callers between us fold the turn when he leads, it's probably best to call down or raise based on your own personal embrace of variance.

Although very non-standard, this seems like an extreme way ahead/way behind situation where whoever is behind is drawing to 2 outs at best. So, if you like variance, put in 5 or 3 bets, but if you don't like variance put in 2 bets.

Yeah. I thought you were sb or something. I are reading very good at 4th grade levul.

4 or 5 betting the turn against this villain seems like ridiculous spew given the preflop and flop action.

I'm raising once on the turn and calling down from there. That feels like the right amount of action with your hand and your read. Villain has Aces, Kings, or AK, and there are more combinations of AK and AA what with the K on the board. Remember that villains don't always act predictably. One beat can send some people into a tailspin - and Villain may have played aces passively earlier and lost and decided he's going to go nuts the next time he gets them.

i just reread my post and I definitely could have been clearer that I meant putting in 2, 3 or 5 bets total on the last two streets, with my preference being 3.

i think 3betting pre is fine.

after villain k/r/caps the flop, i want to just call down the turn and river. when villains like this take lines like that they usually have top set. the only hand i can think of that you beat that he might take this line with is AA, and that's just not very likely.

you've shown a lot of strength in this hand and he doesn't seem to care. preflop you 3bet his utg raise. on the flop you bet/3bet and he still caps. it seems like he's got a pretty strong hand and likely has you beat. i prefer to call down.

i'd raise the turn one more time. as passive as this guy is pre, he seems like he overvalues his hands postflop and is a poor hand-reader. he also has twice as many combos of AA as KK. if he 3bets, then just pay the man his money and expect to lose.

Just cc pf. (EDIT: I'd cc w AKo but raise AKs and JJ)

As played ... Get to showdown ASAP imo.

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Thanks to everyone for all the comments. The question I had for the turn and river was mainly just for my own check as it turned out not to matter.

Here is the conclusion of the hand for anyone interested:

Turn (26 bb): 3
5 checks, Hero bets, BB folds, Villain calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls

River (30 bb): 5
3 checks, Hero bets, Villain calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds

Villain shows AA, UTG+2 mucks

Yup as soon as he checks to you ott you MUST Value bet as well as otr. Good job there.

some of your questions sound like pot-control type stuff. do you have a big bet background?

not really, limit is by far the game I play most often. My questions were more about playing really strong hands against an opponent's really strong range.

i mean, for as strong a hand as we had and all that went right for us, we ended up getting 4.5:1 on all of our action, so it seemed like there may be a better way to play this.