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| Small Stakes Limit Discussions about small stakes Texas Hold'em (from 2/4 to around 15/30) |
05-17-2012, 04:10 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 1,802
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live 20: weak hand played weakly
pre: hero w/ 54cc on BtN
4 limpers, hero calls
hadn't played a hand in several orbits
flop,7p,7sb: 3d7h9c
checks, hero bets, 3 call
gutshot
turn,4p,5bb: Kc
checks, hero checks
and now flush draw
river,4p,5bb: 6c
bb bets, folds, hero calls
baby flush
Bad not to raise here?
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05-17-2012, 04:54 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: We're all Lebowskis on this bus
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
Looks great up to the river. Definitely raise/call.
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05-17-2012, 05:29 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dissertation Writing...
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlanBostick
Looks great up to the river. Definitely raise/call.
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Yeah. I like the turn check and flop bet but I raise this river for sure.
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05-17-2012, 08:55 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 354
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
shouldn't we just take the free card on the flop? I understand that sometimes our flop bet will get us two cards, as here, but we are 7 ways w/ a gutshot and 5-high.
as played, I agree w/ raise riv, your hand is underrepped and disguised.
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05-17-2012, 10:35 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2009
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
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Originally Posted by earlytimes1
shouldn't we just take the free card on the flop? I understand that sometimes our flop bet will get us two cards, as here, but we are 7 ways w/ a gutshot and 5-high.
as played, I agree w/ raise riv, your hand is underrepped and disguised.
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I'm with you. I check behind this flop. The free card is worth something, but our equity isn't likely sufficient to justify the cost (without a good read about fold equity). And we're gonna hate life if we get x/r'd.
And like everyone else, I'm raise-calling this river every day and twice on Sunday without a SPECIFIC read that villain doesn't bet anything short of a flush here.
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05-18-2012, 07:00 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: i'm a monster!
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
i would check the flop. definitely raise the river
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05-18-2012, 11:14 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: the merge gaming network
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
i don't see any value in a bet on the flop. i do see a lot of value in a raise on the river.
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05-18-2012, 12:22 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: coffee
Posts: 3,612
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
the player betting into you has plenty of straights, Kx, and random two pairs in his range that he'll pay off a raise with, and sometimes even 3-bet with (10-8 especially). The backdoor flush is concealed. gotta raise the river.
lawdude's point about getting c/r'd on the flop is a good one, though i see no clear reason to suspect that will happened in an unraised pot on rag flop. does the free card play often work in this game? you're on the button so your opponents aren't going to be too scared of you. but i don't think it's a bad spot to bet the flop.
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05-19-2012, 03:11 AM
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adept
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: 'murrcah.
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
I like flop betting to get the free turn. Raise/call river.
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05-19-2012, 11:35 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles area
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Re: live 20: weak hand played weakly
In this game the (lol) free card play is most often used by pre-flop raisers w/ two overcards.
In a limped pot like this the button will sometimes bet w/ nothing to get some people to fold, so there is some danger of c/r, esp from the blinds.
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05-19-2012, 11:48 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Saint Paul, MN
Posts: 3,701
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Quote:
Originally Posted by albacorela
pre: hero w/ 54cc on BtN
4 limpers, hero calls
hadn't played a hand in several orbits
flop,7p,7sb: 3d7h9c
checks, hero bets, 3 call
gutshot
turn,4p,5bb: Kc
checks, hero checks
and now flush draw
river,4p,5bb: 6c
bb bets, folds, hero calls
baby flush
Bad not to raise here?
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Grunch
Not enuf equity to bet the flop so check it. Note that the BACKDOOR flush came in otr. So as played raise the river.
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