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06-09-2015 , 09:15 AM
yes
06-09-2015 , 10:49 AM
I would like it in a 1/1/2/4 structure where the bet redoubles on the river. I always thought that would be a fun structure.
06-09-2015 , 12:36 PM
For all you Nate silver fans that Murdered the last World Cup, Costa Rica looks like play of the year (albeit huge variance)
06-09-2015 , 02:13 PM
$4/$8 HOE this weekend in Texas. Babarhaus should make the flight out
06-09-2015 , 02:26 PM
I'm in Annapolis, MD tonight and may have some free time and could drive somewhere. Any suggestions on where I should go for a limit game anywhere in the 8-16 to 25-50 region?
06-09-2015 , 02:40 PM
Maryland Live most definitely. When the room first opened I remember seeing 15/30 occasionally, with 8/16 more frequently, and some 8/16 O8. BBB mentioned something about a 25/50 lhe game as well.
06-09-2015 , 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
I'm in Annapolis, MD tonight and may have some free time and could drive somewhere. Any suggestions on where I should go for a limit game anywhere in the 8-16 to 25-50 region?
Lawdude - It is tough to find limit games in that range in this area. The largest selection of games close to Annapolis is Maryland Live, but while they always have 4/8, and some days they also have 50/100 with a kill (possibly it could go as 30/60 but it is usually 50/100), but rarely anything in the middle. Other casinos (within 2 hours - Horseshoe Baltimore, Hollywood Casino in Charles Town West Virginia, Hollywood Casino in Perryville Maryland, the casinos in Delaware) will have 3/6 at most for limit games.
06-09-2015 , 02:58 PM
I'm gonna give Maryland Live a shot (although it's apparently just the best of some bad options). Thanks everyone!
06-09-2015 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
I'm gonna give Maryland Live a shot (although it's apparently just the best of some bad options). Thanks everyone!
gogogo. enjoy the saxy $2 chips.
06-09-2015 , 05:34 PM
Outside of like 4-7 LHE havens - LA, Vegas, SFBA, CAZ, maybe Seattle, maybe Denver, maybe Foxwoods - I would probably just plop down at a 1/2 NL game and enjoy live trolling.

Sit down and say you're a LHE player. People will assume you suck. And as long as you don't actually suck you'll be the best or second best player at the table, and perceived to be the absolute worst. Which is epic win.

The best part of 1/2 is that you will win 5+ bb/hr from people who think they're winning 10+ bb/hr.

Guy to my right, to friend: "You busted out of the tournament?"

Friend: "Yeah. AK vs AQs all in preflop, and of course he hits the queen. So frustrating, 3.5 hours of perfect play, down the drain with one donkey call."

Guy (nods): "You gonna play cash games?"

Friend: "Yeah, but not at this table. This looks awful." (note: it wasn't)

Guy: "Except for ..." (jerks his head in my direction with the grace and subtlety of Shrek)

Friend: "Yeah, seriously. How'd he even get a stack that big?"

Guy (lowered voice, so only half of our table can hear): "He 3-bet me with JJ and then got it in set-over-set."

Friend: "Figures. I mean 92.4%* of the time you stack him so you got it in good."

(high five)

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* Yes, he actually specified the decimal place. No, I haven't been able to figure out how he got that number. Yes, the fact that I can't figure that out bothers me.
06-09-2015 , 06:42 PM
it seems like every poker story you tell, involves everyone thinking you are awful
06-09-2015 , 07:06 PM
Remember when we were there? All the locals told us he was awful. Story checks out.
06-09-2015 , 07:35 PM
Problem is, I'm a LHE player, and I suck at NL
06-09-2015 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon_locke
it seems like every poker story you tell, involves everyone thinking you are awful
ffffffffuuuuuuuuu

06-09-2015 , 07:47 PM
As Lou Holtz once said, I don't have an inferiority complex. I AM inferior!
06-09-2015 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by offTopic
Problem is, I'm a LHE player, and I suck at NL
Even 1/2?

I find it hard to believe anyone who wins at any type of poker can't beat 1/2 NL. Any sort of semi-reasonable TAG strategy should beat the game, certainly well enough so that you can show up to any casino and play 1/2 and have fun without fearing losing a lot of money.

As long as you have no delusions of grandeur when you're beating 1/2 for 10 bb/hr, I think it's easily the recreational game of choice.
06-09-2015 , 09:33 PM
Personally, never won at NL. Small samples and whatev. WithoffTopic not feeling a favorite in rando game, though maybe nitting way to small profits long term.
06-09-2015 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DougL
Remember when we were there? All the locals told us he was awful. Story checks out.
What checks out, that the locals say that or that he sucks?
06-09-2015 , 11:35 PM
He says they think he's terrible. They say they think he's terrible. Everyone agrees that locals think he's bad at poker.

They're so bad, I wouldn't take their word for anything.
06-10-2015 , 12:03 AM
Not a big NBA fan, but damn, that was a great game.

Also, go Vandy in CWS and first overall pick in MLB draft.
06-10-2015 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DougL
They're so bad, I wouldn't take their word for anything.
Have you no respect for democracy?
06-10-2015 , 01:42 AM
I'm not only bad, I'm nationwide.

Won $94 playing 4/8 at Maryland Live! (The exclamation point is part of the name of the place.) Ship it.
06-10-2015 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
Even 1/2?

I find it hard to believe anyone who wins at any type of poker can't beat 1/2 NL. Any sort of semi-reasonable TAG strategy should beat the game, certainly well enough so that you can show up to any casino and play 1/2 and have fun without fearing losing a lot of money.

As long as you have no delusions of grandeur when you're beating 1/2 for 10 bb/hr, I think it's easily the recreational game of choice.

I may be +$ over time, not really sure, but I frequently am quite unsure of what I'm doing when playing NL.
06-10-2015 , 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by callipygian
Even 1/2?

I find it hard to believe anyone who wins at any type of poker can't beat 1/2 NL. Any sort of semi-reasonable TAG strategy should beat the game, certainly well enough so that you can show up to any casino and play 1/2 and have fun without fearing losing a lot of money.

As long as you have no delusions of grandeur when you're beating 1/2 for 10 bb/hr, I think it's easily the recreational game of choice.
I can't beat 1/2NL. Probably because I use limit strategies like 100% Cbet and never folding top pair. I'd rather play small stakes limit anyway.
06-10-2015 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KL03
I can't beat 1/2NL. Probably because I use limit strategies like 100% Cbet and never folding top pair.
I don't think those are unreasonable, and in general several mantras of LLSNL are either wrong or at least not universally applicable.

People frequently misplay top pair too passively against terrible opponents. I get where the general idea comes from, that you don't want to commit a large stack against a good player with "just" top pair. But most players aren't good and they don't have big stacks. A typical 1/2 opponent has like $40-$60 in front of them and essentially pot commits themselves when they coldcall QJo. I flop top pair second kicker, I push all-in for the psychological impact of betting $200 with "just" top pair into a multiway pot. In reality, my two opponents have less than half of that between them and will call with any pair.

For a lot of us LHE players, the bankroll required for LLSNL is ridiculously small. This means we can push a lot of thin edges, ones that the thousandaire 1/2 "pros" look down on us for pushing. That's where a lot of the accusations of idiocy come from - most decent players have this giant circle jerk of telling each other to find the $5,000-deep 1/2 games and wait to flop a straight flush before betting, when in reality the vast majority of the money comes from scooping up $20 here and $30 there from people who are just there to have a beer and generate a story to tell their friends.

      
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