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What people donk with is probably the most non-correlative aspect with any other aspect of play.

Loose-passives donk top pair. TAGs donk top pair. Fastplayers donk. Slowplayers donk. Donking varies non-obviously by stake and location.

It was one of my top notes in online play because it varied so much.

Yup

Some players I call x3 when they donk when I've AA on J62tt. Some get raised mercilessly. Among many other strategies.

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12-12-2014 , 11:17 PM

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jeese

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generally speaking if you aren't quite sure what to do and are actually very good at poker it's fine to just **** with your opponent. if you're not super awesome then you could be ****ing up (I used to do that) but now that I generally can just soul read a lot of my opponents I just do whatever will tilt their balls off.

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12-12-2014 , 11:34 PM

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Captain R

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Doing whatever your opponent's don't want you to do is a fine way to go through life.

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12-12-2014 , 11:40 PM

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jeese

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real smart guy taught me that in 2009. I wasn't smart enough to learn it then.

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12-12-2014 , 11:42 PM

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jeese

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I raise Kings in a pretty multiway pot pf nit calls SB. 5 or 6 ways flop is

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I bet SB check/raise they all fold I just call as I would with 100% of my range.

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I just call cause I'm' not really sure. Will he bet/fold his 77 or 99 or 44 or whatever? probably. Is there some chance he has a 6? Sure.

actually never mind I played this hand like a champion.

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12-13-2014 , 12:00 PM

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Bob148

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Originally Posted by RLjolt

I assume what you mean by strategically consistent for this situation is that we consistently do whatever we can to get as many chips in the pot?

So let's say our villains aren't paying attention to the action at the table other than what they have, and how many chips it's going to cost to stay in the hand.
Do we bet or c/r?

1) Something like that, but also that we don't want Lawdude to know we have a King when we donk, thus we should also donk our strong draws.

2) I think the bets go in better if we bet 3 bet than if we check raise 4 bet the flop with this hand because of the ranges that our opponents can raise the flop with and bet 3 bet the flop with respectively. On the other hand, if we had KT, I could get behind a flop check raise 4 bet.

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12-19-2014 , 05:17 PM

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These replies were definitely scoopable. Thanks for feedback.

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12-19-2014 , 06:55 PM

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Just as long as we're clear that if we bet the flop (or c/r or whatever), we're begging 55 to put more money in the middle. His two outs putting money in the middle based on his "I might actually have the best hand" draw is very profitable. If you're wondering how best to protect your hand, you're doing it very wrong.

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12-21-2014 , 01:59 PM

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The unanswered question is: did anyone else show down, or does it remain a mystery whether your hand was dominated on the flop by UTG opener's LOLslowplayed AK?

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12-21-2014 , 02:30 PM

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What flavors do those come in?

Just curious if lawdude means 'If your opponents don't care, fine' makes it then a betting hand? And then I'll be satisfied with the goods and services compliments of 2p2 this month.

Anything is possible with a read. If your opponents are non-observant, just pursue whatever strategy with flopped trips that is likely to get the most money into the pot. That can include donking.

But my default play is to x/r, for the reasons I stated. And the fact that you sometimes miss a bet this way isn't a big deal. You are also missing bets sometimes by donking-- you just don't realize it.

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12-25-2014 , 01:42 AM

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Bob148

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If your opponents are non-observant, just pursue whatever strategy with flopped trips that is likely to get the most money into the pot.

But Lawdude, isn't it possible that the way to get the most money in the pot is also the way to collapse your opponent's range to hands that beat you?

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12-25-2014 , 04:55 PM

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But Lawdude, isn't it possible that the way to get the most money in the pot is also the way to collapse your opponent's range to hands that beat you?

True. My statement was a bit sloppy.

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01-03-2015 , 05:52 AM

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RLjolt

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Originally Posted by AlanBostick

The unanswered question is: did anyone else show down, or does it remain a mystery whether your hand was dominated on the flop by UTG opener's LOLslowplayed AK?

I bet blank turn and like 4 or 5 people call. Old man sitting next to woman with 55 mutters "there ya go" when river binks 5 and she smiles back at him. I check and call in case they were talking real estate.

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