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Old 06-11-2012, 12:50 AM   #1
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Commerce 8: LOL Freecardaments

5 people limp in and I raise black JJ in the SB. BB (30 yo loose and angry persian man) calls. 7 ways.

Flop 345ddh. I bet, BB raises, 2 coldcallers, I 3bet, BB caps, coldcallers coldcall again.
Turn 4c, I check and it gets checked around.
River 5s, I check, BB sprays out a bet and gets 1 caller. I overcall.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:52 AM   #2
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Re: Commerce 8: LOL Freecardaments

i think id call the flop and then donk good turns, considering half the deck sucks and i run bad.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:40 AM   #3
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Re: Commerce 8: LOL Freecardaments

If BB is raising for a freebie, oop, with five opponents behind him, then he's loose, angry and stupid. If he then caps the flop for a freebie with two opponents that have already called two cold, then he's beyond stupid.

If he didn't ride the short bus to the casino, it's hard to imagine a hand he'd play this way ott. Perhaps 53, fearing he just got counterfeited by your overpair and is avoiding your c/r?

ETA: It goes without saying that 44 is another hand he could play like this.

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Old 06-11-2012, 04:18 PM   #4
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If BB is raising for a freebie, oop, with five opponents behind him, then he's loose, angry and stupid. If he then caps the flop for a freebie with two opponents that have already called two cold, then he's beyond stupid.

If he didn't ride the short bus to the casino, it's hard to imagine a hand he'd play this way ott. Perhaps 53, fearing he just got counterfeited by your overpair and is avoiding your c/r?

ETA: It goes without saying that 44 is another hand he could play like this.
I can see him playing 66 this way too - maybe a larger pair, and also 56 especially if it's 56.

Fwiw I would bet the turn.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:28 PM   #5
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I think I play it the same, although I haven't played a ton of live LHE. I guess another option is to lead the turn
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:00 PM   #6
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Re: Commerce 8: LOL Freecardaments

Depending on the table dynamics, I might raise the river. Most of the time I think I play it the same way.
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If BB is raising for a freebie, oop, with five opponents behind him, then he's loose, angry and stupid. If he then caps the flop for a freebie with two opponents that have already called two cold, then he's beyond stupid.
it's commerce 8/16 Leo.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:49 PM   #8
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I'd "donk" that turn for sure.
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it's commerce 8/16 Leo.
Do you pinky swear that they do that ****? I mean, like, honestly there are dudes that would play the hand that way?

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Why can't you do both? And obviously.
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:44 AM   #11
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Do you pinky swear that they do that ****? I mean, like, honestly there are dudes that would play the hand that way?

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Confirmed people play like that at commerce. I think that's why I can win the 8/16 there.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:48 AM   #12
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Let me guess, BB showed the ole A6 ball, after he capped the flop w/ an OESD for a free card, and then tried to bluff on the river against 3 players with the bet laying 15:1 odds for everyone.

I really hope this happened, I might have to go for a west coast trip if it's true.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:29 PM   #13
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Re: Commerce 8: LOL Freecardaments

My issue with the river call is not villain's range (confirm young angry Commerce Persians often play this way). It's the fact someone else has called on a double paired board after calling down the entire hand. Are you really putting this guy on a naked 3 or 66?

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Old 06-12-2012, 09:26 PM   #14
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Honestly I think you played it less fine. A bit less flop action might be OK and a turn donk, but this line seems OK against unknowns.
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Let me guess, BB showed the ole A6 ball, after he capped the flop w/ an OESD for a free card, and then tried to bluff on the river against 3 players with the bet laying 15:1 odds for everyone.

I really hope this happened, I might have to go for a west coast trip if it's true.
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