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07-12-2015 , 05:22 PM

Crispix

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 178

Hero is card dead but has been picking up a pot here and there to stay even. Been at the table for about 4-5 hours. All villains are loose passive. Very passive- Haven't seen a pot >10BBs in what seems like 4 orbits.

Hero otb with red JJ.

4 limpers in EP. Hero raises, blinds call, first limper 3!, two call, hero caps. 7 ways. 28SBs.

Flop is T84ddx. Checks to hero who bets, SB calls, BB raises, two fold, two cold calls, hero 3!, all call. 5 ways. 43SBs.

Turn is a 2x. Checks to hero who bets, all call. Still 5 ways, 27.5BBs.

River is an Ax. Checks to hero who...

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07-12-2015 , 06:04 PM

ninefingershuffle

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,544

Surrender

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07-12-2015 , 06:46 PM

daveopie

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,506

It's like rain on your wedding day
It's a free ride when you've already paid
It's the good advice that you just didn't take
Who would've thought... it figures

Take the free ride and check the river. Against 4 other players, you have to think that at least one of them has an A or else already has you beat. Although, I'm guessing that ironically no one did.

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07-12-2015 , 07:28 PM

Maganda's Big Fish

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 308

It happens...

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07-12-2015 , 08:28 PM

phunkphish

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Not sure about your location/player pool.

To me, loose passive players in 4-8 don't limp/reraise PF. Also, after you've 4b pre, a loose passive who raises the flop can always beat an overpair.

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07-13-2015 , 12:00 AM

mongidig

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Originally Posted by phunkphish

Not sure about your location/player pool.

To me, loose passive players in 4-8 don't limp/reraise PF. Also, after you've 4b pre, a loose passive who raises the flop can always beat an overpair.

I think loose passive players will LRR with AA,KK and maybe AK.

I agree with your flop assessment. I'm just calling.

I think op should check this river. I think you take third, maybe fourth.

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07-13-2015 , 12:19 AM

callipygian

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 19,880

In NL, people will sometimes limp small PP to set mine, then backraise to try to take down the pot if it gets raised behind them.

When NL players play LHE, sometimes they try seeing if anyone will fold to their preflop LRR

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07-13-2015 , 12:32 AM

Man of Means

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,104

More irony needed ITT. River check is fine. Rest of hand looks fine too, though the hand history reads like a clusterbuck.

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07-13-2015 , 07:40 AM

Crispix

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 178

Thanks for the advice!

Sorry for the convoluted HH. What I wanted to show in my line of thinking and play was that the preflop limp reraiser was from EP, and he called down the rest of the way. The flop raise came from the BB and he went into call down mode after I 3! flop

never once did I think I was up against AA-QQ after the LRR'er called flop + lack of action from the BB pre.

From where I play, an overpair is usually good(tongue in cheek) after that pre and flop action.

Is hero's best play to check a K river? Q? Flush card?

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07-13-2015 , 02:42 PM

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riffy

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Wp. I want to bet the river....

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07-13-2015 , 03:22 PM

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Chasqui

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,749

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Originally Posted by riffy

Wp. I want to bet the river....

You do know that WHEN you get called (by one of the 5 players) you need to be good OVER 50% of the time for this bet to be profitable.

Also, one in five people will sometimes bluff raise ( you can't have an A in your hand)

Last edited by Chasqui; 07-13-2015 at 03:26 PM. Reason: What's the point of this thread?

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07-13-2015 , 07:49 PM

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Napoleons Encore

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 29

Against 5 players in a pot this size I don't think that I am putting in any more money. The Ax isn't the worst card but it isn't helping you.

If you bet I don't think that there are going to be many worse hands that call. Flush and Straight draws are going to fold. And what are you going to do if you get raised?

I say show your jacks and hope that everyone was drawing or had a ten.

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07-13-2015 , 07:50 PM

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jdr0317

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 8,231

Not even sure if flop is a 3 bet given game description.

As played, just use your positional advantage. Check.

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07-14-2015 , 07:43 PM

#14

lawdude

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 10,305

You've got one hand in your pocket, and the other one should be checking.

You oughtta know.

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07-18-2015 , 07:46 AM

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ACG2x

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As tempting as betting the river would be I have to say turn your J's over and hope for the best. If you do bet there is little chance of a c/r because the villains in this case don't seem sophisticated enough to do that with a plan B TP river from a NFD. An overpair here just isn't good enough times to justify tossing in another BB.

This pot was the man of your dreams you were about to meet
But the river A was his beautiful wife

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07-18-2015 , 06:19 PM

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TheHip41

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Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27,047

Check. Not close.

The flop is close but I'm 3 betting because the pot is huge and I have an over pair and the Jd.

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07-18-2015 , 10:13 PM

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CrazyLond

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It's like you met the man of your dreams, but then you see that river ace and it's like meeting his beautiful wife. Check back.

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07-18-2015 , 11:32 PM

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TheHip41

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It's like you met the man of your dreams, but then you see that river ace and it's like meeting his beautiful wife. Check back.

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