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08-12-2014 , 02:50 PM
I can't believe I'm here learning how to angle shoot a kid's carnival game. Also, good job in the tournament.
08-12-2014 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by callipygian
First time someone acts out of turn, I just remind them action is on me. The second time, I do whatever it is I would have done anyway, but look them in the eye, put on a big **** eating grin, and say, "Okay, fine, I (check/bet/raise). Your turn now." Then they sit there whether they're a level above or level below me.
Why say anything? There are a few guys I play with who do the "check out of turn with a monster" angle, and I just keep quiet and play my hand accordingly.

I actually had this happen to me recently, and I feel like I really butchered the river and it still bothers me. Basically there were 3-4 limpers I have 8Ts in small blind and call and big blind checks. Flop comes 88J. Big blind does the fake check out of turn so I put him on an 8, but I have a T kicker, so I am still ahead of his "range" with my kicker and bet.

He does a fake tank for a while and calls and the other 3 players fold, which is unusual but happens sometimes. River comes 7 and I bet again, as my T still plays and maybe he will raise me with a worse hand? Anyways, he fake tanks again and calls, very obvious weak when strong stuff. Anyways, river is an A and I have a brainfart and bet. I realized my mistake as soon as it happens. My T kicker doesn't even play anymore and he has been so "weak" that there is a good chance he has a monster here and chop is my best scenario. Of course he raises the river and I am not good enough to fold and I call, and he shows 87o. I really think check-call is my best river option here, if I am not disciplined/sure enough in my read to bet-fold the river (I am not).

Last edited by limitdonk1; 08-12-2014 at 05:15 PM.
08-12-2014 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by limitdonk1
Why say anything? There are a few guys I play with who do the "check out of turn with a monster" angle, and I just keep quiet and play my hand accordingly.

I actually had this happen to me recently, and I feel like I really butchered the river and it still bothers me. Basically there were 3-4 limpers I have 8Ts in small blind and call and big blind checks. Flop comes 88J. Big blind does the fake check out of turn so I put him on an 8, but I have a T kicker, so I am still ahead of his "range" with my kicker and bet.

He does a fake tank for a while and calls and the other 3 players fold, which is unusual but happens sometimes. River comes 7 and I bet again, as my T still plays and maybe he will raise me with a worse hand? Anyways, he fake tanks again and calls, very obvious weak when strong stuff. Anyways, river is an A and I have a brainfart and bet. I realized my mistake as soon as it happens. My T kicker doesn't even play anymore and he has been so "weak" that there is a good chance he has a monster here and chop is my best scenario. Of course he raises the river and I am not good enough to fold and I call, and he shows 87o. I really think check-call is my best river option here, if I am not disciplined/sure enough in my read to bet-fold the river (I am not).
So you know he fake the check because he wants to bet and you still bet?
Why not let him bet and check raise?
08-12-2014 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by merryber
So you know he fake the check because he wants to bet and you still bet?
Why not let him bet and check raise?
On the flop the pot is 5 handed on a fairly coordinated board. I am pretty sure he has an 8, but I don't know if he will bet and I am not willing to risk giving a free card, so I bet.

Once it got heads up on turn and I was reading so much strength from him I decided my hand was worth 3 bets max, so I took a line that would get me to showdown only putting in 3 bets max. . If I go for a check raise On turn I have to be willing to fold a river unimproved if he raises me on turn or river. I am not willing to make that lay down so I took the bet-bet line, although I should check-call river when my kicker no longer plays.
08-12-2014 , 11:38 PM
You ever lose 50 BBs in three hours and are pretty confident that you played really well?
08-13-2014 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by holmfries
You ever lose 50 BBs in three hours and are pretty confident that you played really well?
Standard.
08-13-2014 , 12:29 AM
Of course, when I *win* fifty or more bets in a relatively short time, it is *guaranteed* that it was because I played like a champion.
08-13-2014 , 02:06 AM
Or chumpion.
08-13-2014 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by holmfries
You ever lose 50 BBs in three hours and are pretty confident that you played really well?
I don't think I've ever lost 4 racks and felt like I didn't make any mistakes.
08-13-2014 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Captain R
I don't think I've ever lost 4 racks and felt like I didn't make any mistakes.
I don't think I had a session when I felt I didn't make any mistake...
08-13-2014 , 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pid Koker
Bingo!
I was in that game. What seat were you?
08-13-2014 , 09:56 AM
The other day I was shooting around in a friends driveway when a particularly talented 13 year old challenged me to a game of one on one. Naturally, I accepted.

We played to 11 by 1's and you gotta win by two. There is no 3 point line on this court. My shot was falling and so was his. I was giving him the outside shot but wasn't letting him drive. Next thing we know we're tied at 10. My shot went cold. I back rimmed three or four shots from the top of the key. I should've taken him inside to utilize my height advantage, because he got the ball and made a shot from the top of the key to make the score 11-10.

It was game point and I was dripping with sweat. I couldn't give him a clean look at the basket so I pressed him at the top of the key. After a momentary lapse in effort and concentration on my part, he beat me with a left handed drive for a final score of 12-10.

Das ok. I probably could've played harder on defense but I'm not about to get physical with a 13 year old. Maybe when he gets a little older and bigger I'll play harder, but for now he's the champion.
08-13-2014 , 11:04 AM
He's prolly braggin' to his pals about how he whipped up on some older guy that didn't know **** about playin' defense.
08-13-2014 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by merryber
I don't think I had a session when I felt I didn't make any mistake...
You've never sat down at a lower limit, played one hand that was an easy pf fold, and got called to the game you came for? I've done that at least 10 times iirc.
08-13-2014 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by merryber
So you know he fake the check because he wants to bet and you still bet?
Why not let him bet and check raise?
Because then you don't get to 3-bet.
08-13-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
You've never sat down at a lower limit, played one hand that was an easy pf fold, and got called to the game you came for? I've done that at least 10 times iirc.
Meh...one hand is not a session ( it's not even a se ).
08-13-2014 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain R
I don't think I've ever lost 4 racks and felt like I didn't make any mistakes.
Well yeah really well doesn't mean mistake free. Generally though I was fine with how I played and amazed at my ability to make the second best hand otr.
08-13-2014 , 05:14 PM
Interesting to read a different viewpoint. This person was upset but I never play in games with aces cracked promos and never really want to.

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just got back from a quick trip to vegas last week and i always use to enjoy playing 2/4 limit at Quad ( old Imperal palace) and also the flamingo, i admit its been about 2yrs since my last vist and they always had aces and kings cracked at the Imperial pace and aces cracked at the flamingo but not this year so i was talking to Ryan at the Quad and asked him why not and his repsonce was well we dont want the type of players that come for that promo so here it is 10am and i look around the room and there is no game going and i say to him WTF ? this time 2 yrs ago you had 2 -3 full tables going of 2/4 limit going. so you would rather have no poker being played instead. he tells me well that promo just brings in local grinder and nits and we dont make no money off them..... so i ask isnt the promos paid out of the jackpot drop and if you want to make it better just require a pot total of say $30. to qualify for the jackpot and so that way you would have a couple of tables going even if its alot of regulars that way you can offer open seats to the visting tourist. He just shrugs his shoulders and says do i want to put my name down on the list to get a game going so i tell him no. guess ill just go somewhere else that trys to offer their hotel guest a poker game that is fun , somewhat low cost and keeps their dealers from sitting around with nothing to do. so i left and played over at the Orleans and later on went down to the Golden Nugget and had a great time... Now if i was wanting to play 4-8 limit or 2-5 nl i would not be playing at the Quad but would head down to the bigger casnios down the street but thats not my cup of tea.I just like to play low limit and drink some beers and have a fun time and not be worried about trying to win enough to pay the rent i am their just for fun.I guess Ceasers Entertainment is more worried about their low brow image and would rather have empty poker rooms for their guest to go along with the new ferris wheel opps i mean the HIGH ROLLER that every time i seen you could shoot a gun thur and not hit anyone riding it even if it was running except at prime time and then it wasnt no where near half full. dont know if ill ever come back to vegas as i can find a reg game of poker any where i live.....
http://www.pokeratlas.com/table-talk...#comment-19222
08-13-2014 , 05:22 PM
pooh bah yo!

I was gonna start a new thread, but to be honest, the few ideas I have seem to be lacking content to the point where they don't deserve their own thread. Plus, I had a hard time coming up with a catchy title. So I'm posting here instead. Some of my ideas for new thread titles:

Don't be scared, it's only shorthanded.

Ask me about the incredible wave of joy that I've been riding for months.

I like check raising.

I like bet 3 betting.

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There were some other very nonsensical ideas in my head but I won't trouble you ladies and gents with those at this time.

Move along, nothing to see here.
08-13-2014 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by holmfries
You ever lose 50 BBs in three hours and are pretty confident that you played really well?
I've lost that in three minutes, but it was NL...
08-13-2014 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Interesting to read a different viewpoint. This person was upset but I never play in games with aces cracked promos and never really want to.



http://www.pokeratlas.com/table-talk...#comment-19222
Doubt the promo mattered to that guy either other than when it ran, they had games. They stop the promo, no games. Vegas isn't exactly run by rocket surgeons, because in most places in the casino it's "open game, make money". You don't have to be Einstein to run a casino. It would be nice if they occasionally did have someone with some smarts in management positions though.
08-13-2014 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
Standard.
Confirm standard.

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Originally Posted by Steve00007
Interesting to read a different viewpoint. This person was upset but I never play in games with aces cracked promos and never really want to.



http://www.pokeratlas.com/table-talk...#comment-19222
I think casinos would rather have no games than spread 2/4.

Also, how does everyone feel about people selectively chopping with aces cracked? Seems to be a fairly common practice, but I kind of feel like I'm getting cheated.
08-13-2014 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pig4bill
Doubt the promo mattered to that guy either other than when it ran, they had games. They stop the promo, no games. Vegas isn't exactly run by rocket surgeons, because in most places in the casino it's "open game, make money". You don't have to be Einstein to run a casino. It would be nice if they occasionally did have someone with some smarts in management positions though.
He named the thread "Where are the poker promos???" so I thought it did matter to him. But I could be wrong.
08-13-2014 , 08:36 PM
Would I have a plausible excuse for not wearing a seatbelt if I proved to the court that the belt directly crossed my hernia repair incision?
08-13-2014 , 09:43 PM
If someone plays on bovada and is willing to answer a couple questions please PM me.

      
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