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Old 08-06-2012, 05:53 PM   #91
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:07 PM   #92
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:36 PM   #93
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Never mind that our state is called Minnesoda, we're definitely in the "pop" zone!
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:41 PM   #94
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try some deucescracked 6m videos (disclaimer: i work for them)

the book 'winning in tough holdem games' is outdated but will be somewhat useful
WITHG is my favorite poker book. Just curious - in what ways (in general) is it outdated?
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:34 PM   #95
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:49 PM   #96
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I will look around for it, thanks for the link!

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Old 08-06-2012, 10:22 PM   #97
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Heading to Vegas on Wed. and will be there through Fri. PM if you will be there and want to grab a beverage. Planning to play at the Bellagio.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:39 PM   #98
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Never mind that our state is called Minnesoda, we're definitely in the "pop" zone!
This is amazing.

It's a shame that most people that don't use the term "soda" in reference to drinking a soda is uneducated. Good thing I'm from California where we promote the left wing homosexual agenda.
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Old 08-06-2012, 11:47 PM   #99
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Never mind that our state is called Minnesoda, we're definitely in the "pop" zone!
Nevada and Wyoming don't seem to drink very much...carbonated high fructose corn syrup beverages?...according to this map.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:08 AM   #100
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WITHG is my favorite poker book. Just curious - in what ways (in general) is it outdated?
it was written 4 or 5 years ago iirc. it advocates yucky things like the free showdown raise. it's still a reasonable book and better than most of the literature out there. the game just moves pretty quickly.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:46 AM   #101
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...carbonated high fructose corn syrup beverages?
Mexican Coke is liek zo mad at you right now omg.
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:37 AM   #102
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What are some good resources to learn live shorthanded play for mid-stakes games? I feel like online plays so different that a lot of what is on 2+2 doesn't apply. Situations I'd like to understand are full ring games that suddenly go 4-5 handed and how to adjust.

Thoughts appreciated.

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I wonder if your issue is that in online games you see people adjust to shorthanded spots by becoming more LAGTAG and in many live spots you see even reasonable villains adjusting by occasionally spewing, the old NITspewLAG? Basically, the default reads you see good micros players make don't apply because the villains aren't adding in hands one at a time off a logical ranking of hands, they just sometimes decide to three bet and win a pot with 54s or just never fold the BB when the table gets down to X.

Playing online and getting to be a good/confident shorthanded player would give you the skill to adjust to whack-a-mole ranges. I'd follow BBB's suggestions with SH DeucesCracked vids and WITHG -- anything BBB does is good, a lot of old stuff (5's a crowd) is still relevant. Your live player will be different, so you end up having to adjust to his leaks. BTW, being solid then randomly spewy isn't that bad a strategy 4 handed.

In the short term, think about all the hands your villain may have. Look at each street and ask if you can just commit to showdown (at least on some future boards). If you can, be aware of lines that turn your hand into a bluff -- that's bad. Hands become easier once they have showdown value, like hands in NL where you have committed. If your villain starts having a lot of ??? hands in his range, he becomes harder to value bet (unless he calls down T high) and somewhat easier to bluff. Last advice would be to avoid building large pots early with hands you can't show down.

Heck, all that advice applies to FR. Poker is poker.
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Where I grew up a "pop" is something you stopped in a bar for after work, served in a shot glass chased with a beer
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:16 PM   #104
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What are some good resources to learn live shorthanded play for mid-stakes games? I feel like online plays so different that a lot of what is on 2+2 doesn't apply. Situations I'd like to understand are full ring games that suddenly go 4-5 handed and how to adjust.

Thoughts appreciated.

-hf
Get on a site that still takes US players and play a lot of 6max hands. That's what I'm doing for just this purpose.

MitchL has said any number of times that literally no player who plays exclusively live can be experienced at shorthanded play.

Yes, online plays differently from live; but if you are playing the players the adjustments are not hard; it's just that you will be playing a lot more of some particular sorts of situations when you play live short.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:40 PM   #105
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literally no player who plays exclusively live can be experienced at shorthanded play.
Not entirely sure I got the strike right but yeah basically a lifetime of live play will net you only 1-2 million hands.
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