Ok 8/16 game that I moved to after 6/12 broke and no real reads on the table other than that it is generally loose.. So absent any real reads which I have a plethora on at my normal limit and just knowing the game plays much more aggressively I come seeking the wisdom of the 2+2 crew

UTG limps 2 mid position limp HJ raises CO calls Hero on Button (AK) 3 bets all call HJ 4 call ... I cap and everyone else calls.

FLOP K99 ... checked to me I bet HJ and CO call

Turn Q... two hearts on board .. checked to me I bet HJ raises CO 3 bets ...
...I ???

Curious best course of action in this spot and plan for river if we continue with the hand

Folding. You're crushed. We have almost no redraw value, awful odds to call 2 more bb's, and we aren't even closing the action.

What range do you give the 4bettor and the raiser pre flop? How about after the turn action? (at your regular game)

Normally, 8/16 is not an agressive game preflop. Unless it's a maniac (or expert that knows you have a wide range), when people 4 bet 3 ways they have QQ+ , how do you like your hand against that range on the turn?

I hated life after the turn action and in my normal game it's the easiest fold in the world I was just wondering as the aggression ramps up at higher limits is this a call you need to make in spots or only with specialized reads. My original read was that I was up vs AA or QQ or at best AK from the HJ and I felt either KQ or even J10 from CO.

Why'd you bet the turn? What worse hands are calling?

I'd call the preflop 4 bet.

As played I think you have between 0 and 3 outs on the turn.

The pot is really big. I'm more surprised 2 people folded flop for one bet in a 30 bet pot. Caller can be floating flop with all sorts of pieces of paper. Really boils down to 4-bettor. If he can have aq, jj, tt, 88-, ak, we're still in good shape.

checking turn seems best, as played fold

I think checking the turn makes sense.

I would put HJ on the tighter end of capping range considering he chose to 4 bet OOP to 3 bettor when it can still get 5 bet. Plus capping ranges at 8/16 tend to be as advertised. I think AQ is optimistic and JJ or TT may not even be there.

This board can easily hit CO range. Any hand better than op's is gonna raise.You might be giving up a little value but I would prefer to get to showdown as cheaply as possible especially given the size of the pot.

Worse kings. Smaller pairs. i.e. 1010 JJ. AQ. What's the river plan if you check turn? And I'm curious why the check seems best to a couple of you. Plus if anyone else would like to chime in on why we shouldn't be capping flop in position in a multiway flop I'd love to hear it

Also 8/16 where I play is as standard a very loose aggressive game. I believe I put that in the original post. ... So no matter what the games may be like where u play I'm talking about a game where I see 5+ way multi raised pots on a fairly consistent basis.

I'd be on board with betting turn but for the preflop 4-bettor in front of us. That would lead me to take a free card on the turn and call one bet on most rivers. Obv I don't know your opponents, but where I play at these stakes, after this turn any preflop raise/4-bet has us beat here with a small possibility of a chop.

As played, I'm folding to the check-3-bet which, given the preflop action, smells like JT or an expertly slowplayed hand with a 9.

You lose to all those hands on the turn, so why did you bet? I don't get it. You forgot to mention the remaining KK combo.

If the HJ has this range then I agree with a bet. I'm basing my check on a slightly tighter range in which case we are beat more often and have less hands to get value from. Since the pot is huge, I'd prefer to check it back and call 1 more bet as opposed to potentially 3 bets if we get check raised. I think as played you should fold. by folding we are giving up an opportunity to hit a K on the river. This is another reason I like checking the turn.

Checking the turn is awful.

Why awful if any reasonable hand has us crushed or is drawing to 2, maybe 4 outs? OTOH, if villains are 4 betting or calling 4 and 5 bets with KT then I would agree with not checking the turn.

I just noticed there's a FD on the turn, knowing our suits would help, as well as knowing if villains are maniacs.

Edit: I also just noticed TT and JJ have 6 outs. Turning into an interesting spot.

No it's not

The pot is huge, giving freecard is horrendous on turn.
Nice bet on turn, your beat, just fold, nh.
Btw , why checking if you basically draw to nothing ?

QJ and QT also have 6 outs.

It just depends on what range your giving the other players.

I can see a scenario where betting makes sense and one where checking makes sense.

I missed the part where the pot got 4 bet preflop and went from large to massive. Checking the turn is absolutely terrible in a pot of this size. You should probably be value betting tens.

You still realise someone at 8/16 made it 4 bets pre, right? There is nearly no value in TT on Kxx board.

It's still better than the alternative.

My read of those possible hands came after the raise reraise hit. Before that I feel I'm facing worse kings a lot. Smaller pairs that didn't hit and random ace hi pair/straight or other draws. Fwiw I insta mucked after I got the feedback from those two players. Board ran out with another 9 and went bet call AK vs 88. So I was just wondering if I was missing something. Obviously I made a significant note in my memory banks about 88 in that range and watched him spazz off 3 racks in short order. Believe it or not some ppl pop it in these games for a variety of reasons not necessarily because they have a top5 hand. I feel checking is really weak here and if we are crushed why not find out now instead of pray for ? What at best a 1 outer? Anyways thanks for feedback everyone.

So you wernt beat but tie.
Still imo, the price of cold calling a 3bet on turn not closing the action and having the river after, it is not a good price to pay for at best split the pot anyway.