6/12

1 limp, villain limps, another limp. I raise QQ in CO, BTN calls, BB calls, 6 ways to the flop.

Reads on Villain: Plays similarly to me. Willing to open looser in LP, tighter in EP, has some capacity to bluff. Thinking-type player. However, he cold-calls too much trash (stuff like 87o), and limps up front with similar garbage.

My image: To counter villain's late position aggression, I've been donking a lot of turns in spots where I think I have the best hand and want a bet going in. e.g. : villain raises 2 limpers from BTN, I call 87o in BB 5 ways. Flop: T 5 4 (rainbow), I check/call villain's BTN bet and 4 ppl see the turn. Turn: 8 I lead.


Flop: T 3 4 (rainbow)

I bet, all call.

Turn: 7 (brings possible fd)

Villain leads, 1 fold, action on me.

My guess at range for villain: Tx, 76/75, 66/55, A5, diamonds, all sets/2 pairs/straights.

My thoughts: With 4 others behind me, raising seems far superior.

I raise, rest fold, villain 3 bets.

Plan: call down.

nh?

Seems fine to me.

So far so good. What are you doing if an A or a K falls otr?

nonsimplesimon - not sure how an A/K effects our hand....still planning to call if bet into, and check behind otherwise? I think it's trickier if a Q rolls off. I'd probably raise a non-diamond Q and just call diamond Q's.

Villain really shouldnt have any A or K in his range. Donking A7 is not good and if you (OP) would do it in his place it is a amistake. I can't think of a 6/12 villain who is donk/3b with anything less than 2p here. I would cAll and fold river UI, but only because in the past Ive cAlled enough to know my opponents.

Spiking a Q is ugh. villain hAs 65 here a lot.

Definitely see a river. I'm probably calling down without better reads. If I was going to fold any rivers it would be diamonds because I'm really hoping he has a 1 pair+FD hand he's spewing with at this point.

Any reads on villain's slow playing tendencies? If we can remove sets/flopped 2 pair from his range, his range is probably 65 heavy and we shouldn't be raising a Q river.

Good analysis and Raise is great - protect your vulnerable hand in a big pot. Call the 3-bet. His range is narrowed to the stronger made hands and semibluffs. If for some reason he checks riv, I'd check it back ui.

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i like this new guy

If your range estimate is correct (you know how the villain plays, so I'll trust your read), then I like your turn raise since you are ahead of most of his range.

Once he 3!, what do you put his range at now? I'm thinking that really narrows villain's range to mostly 56, and maybe trip 7's, and you are drawing dead/thin. Maybe, MAYBE he also has 2 pair some percentage of the time, but I'm not sure it is enough of the time for you to continue. But my question for you is what percentage of the time, after the 3!, does villain have hands that you should continue against?

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I'll go ahead and be that guy: I think I fold after getting 3-bet on the turn. If he is really that good, I think I just flat the turn.

He just donk-of-deathed you. What is his range after doing so? Maybe he has a set, two pair, or a straight, but you are behind to his range pretty much always. Maybe he has a set and you have 2 outs, but he probably has 65s here a lot (as others have said.) However, he didn't pump the flop with you which is a mistake if he has an OESD, but that said, I think his range here is super strong and QQ is unfortunately behind it.

But, if you aren't sure (and it doesn't sound like you are entirely) then you must call down because this pot is big and we have an overpair and you all know the rest. If this hand happened against someone I knew well, I could either comfortably raise/call, raise/fold or just flat, but since you don't know, I think you should error on the side of getting to showdown.

I like a sore dick, fwiw.

And yes I know I advocated both folding and calling down in the same post. I thought we should fold at first but then realized this is probably a fur coat dilemma hand and I think we want the coat rather than the shrimp without more info on the player. But I just reread the info in the OP so actually I think I fold if you actually know him well.

Basically, if you've seen him DoD before, I either raise/fold or just flat, but I don't raise/calldown.

Really? I could see hands like K9s (KJs in overlimp range??), A2s-A5s (AJs???) overlimping pf (as well as J9s, QJs/Q9s), peeling this flop with bdfd + bdsd or gutter + overcard(s), and then donking the turned FD. 3betting it admittedly seems extreme.

However, lolslowplayed AT/KT seem plausible.

I just call down after the 3b ott