I open red QQ in EP, 3 callers

Flop (4 players, 7 SB after drop): AQ4
I bet, villain raises, next 2 call 2 cold, I 3! all call.

Villain is pretty passive and his raise means this flop hit him. AFAIK he doesn't raise his draws and especially not from up front. The other 2 players are typical loose-passive players with little history and play a lot of hands.

Turn (4 players, 9.5 BB) T
I bet, Villain calls, fold, fold

Too aggro? Better to just c/c given this board, unless we boat up on the river?

River (2 players, 11.5 BB) J
Hero...

Pf, flop and turn play is fine. B/f the river (Clarkmeister). If V has a straight or a baby flush, you are putting them in a tough spot, and some people will actually fold those hands here.

What do you put him on at this point? AQ, 44, Ax? I'm asking because if your read is correct that he doesn't raise draws, then:

... put none of those hands ahead of you. Best case for him, he picked up a BDFD. Keep on bettin'. Nh.

Edit: Forgot the other two are still in the hand. Still, bet. You often have the best hand, don't want to give lone spades a free shot, and have ~9 outs when behind.

Turn is a bet for sure.

River is more read dependent, but I check. OP said he's passive, but how loose is he?
He'd have to pay off fairly light to make this a river bit for value.
Passive players typically don't try to bluff this spot, so c/f in a vacuum.

Also, I disagree with the above about villain folding. If he called the turn with a draw, he isn't folding once it gets there on the river. I suppose there's a tiny chance he folds something like an A with a baby spade or AK, but not enough to make this a profitable bluff spot.

Hmm... I either B/F or C/F. I almost always Clarkmeister but this board is just so wet I want to C/F, but if he will fold a straight to your bet I definitely like leading out again.

Rest of the hand is fine. Not leading the turn would be a mistake.

The way the hand played you only lose to AK. Will he bet 2 pairs if checked to? If he won't then bet the river.

I'm OK with b/f river against a bad player but against a thinking opponent in theory it's super exploitable. We only have 3 combos of AK where we have a royal flush and other than that we never have a flush.

I got scarred for life about 6 months ago when I got bluff raised twice in the same session by suspected passives, once by an old white passive male, and the other by an old asian woman. I am just fully coming to terms with what happened and beginning the healing process but I'm not there yet. I c/c or b/c.

Both of these options just seem like setting money on fire. How many times do you think you C/F or B/F'd properly.

You only remember the beats. It is totally ok to fold this river.

This was my thinking as well (well, the AK part at least ). If our read on villain is solid then we are not losing to much here. We could in theory lose to 44x, but allowing that to force us to fold the hand (again, given our read) seems pretty MUBsy.

Grease, I doubt it could be a huge mistake to have a plan that doesnt involve folding in a 15 BB pot, especially in a spot where we should not have the flush or straight very often. He might even check back the straight or lower flush. General read that the guy seems sort of passive is not good enough for me to fold in behemoth pots.

Oh I just noticed it is 11.5 and not 15BB....I guess I don't feel quite as bad about b/f. C/f still seems crazy to me. Are you check calling with anything here, if not this hand?

flop-good
turn-good can b/f to a raise
river-b/f, villan calls your probably beat, if he raises your toast, he might even fold to a baby flush checking is thew worst play you could make on the river if he is 1% ok he will bet and you will have to fold to a 4 flush and a 4 straight, but it is limit holdem

Seems like the turn bet is a good way to go. At game speed I wasn't really worried that villain had the flush or straight since I took his raise to be a made hand. But the 2 cold callers behind him might have been on a draw. If it was raised behind me on the turn, my plan was to call and c/f river unimproved.

Hard to see him folding a flush or straight, honestly. Just my read on this particular player. Agree that if he only has the straight, he might at least think about it. He's probably just calling and not raising with a straight or small flush though.

Good points. I wouldn't say he was particularly loose. He might pay off with 2 pair, most likely pay off with a set. I can't see him calling this river with only 1 pair, unless that 1 pair is AK for the straight, especially given the flop raise. If he has the royal then he's obviously raising me. I would not expect this player to bluff since he had been running bad and getting beat up on rivers a lot.

This particular player would probably not bet 2 pair here. He had been running bad and had gotten rivered a bunch over the few hours he was at my table.

Fair enough, but this guy was still basically level 1 thinking. I'm not worried about being exploited at this table, or 6/12 in general. He can read the board, sure, but other than that I think he's just hoping his hand is good.

There are 2 other players in the hand, and they are more passive than villain is. If they raise, they have it.

By betting the turn, if it's 1 back to me and I'm closing the action, I think this is a call and c/f the river UI. If it's 2 back to me I think I'll need to fold. If I call and don't close the action, then it could become a really bad situation if it's 3! behind me.