Nine handed 4/8 LHE and I am OTB with K 8. Players loose to average. Most play str8forward. AA cracked $50 so they don't raise AA preflop. Two limp, I limp, SB $2, BB checks. Rake $4.

Flop: K 8 4 (5 players)

SB check, BB bets, UTG calls, 2 fold, I raise, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 9 (3 players).

BB bets, UTG calls, action to me.

Raise?

BB did not raise preflop and did not 3-bet the flop. Did BB hit the 9 with K9? 88, 44.

Thoughts? Thanks

They don't raise AA but if they'll raise other good hands then I raise preflop. As played I raise the turn, calling down further action. I think the donker doesn't want to give a free card with a hand like KT, or maybe 98. Sure he could have K9 but there's lots to get value from.

Thanks, one other possiblility is that he might put me on a flush draw and not want to give a free card. Good point.

Rsise preflop never entered my mind.

I was told not to post so much, this hand is exactly my problem as demonstrated in that I feel that I need to ask? If I have the best hand I need to raise.

If I posted twice as much I'd be twice as good. It makes you think deeply about different situations and how to combat strategies. Post more.

+1

Grunch

I would feel comfortable raising two limpers with this hand on the button only. Any other position it's a hit or miss but if it's going to be a five way pot and I'm pretty comfortable that no-one in later position is going to raise - or the blinds won't raise - then I'm ok over-limping it (any position OTHER than the button).

our play is read dependent... if he's on the aggressive side yah we can raise. This could be 89 too. There are some players who think they should pump their draws ott rather otf. But Vs anyone else I'm ok calling (but really tempted to raise) especially if they're of the passive types. So why is it eek? is he like really tight passive?

the reasons the mods tell you not to "post" as much is because it clogs the airways. Don't take it the wrong way, we want you to post, but don't want you to ONLY post. If you posted one hand per day and replied to five other posts IN ADDITION to that you'd be well on your way to poker stardom! (or posted two and replied to ten - you get the idea...)

good luck

raise the turn, this is Kx a lot trying not to give a free card to a fd or straight draw

*grunch*

raise the turn. if he 3bets i just call down. you have the best hand a lot.

I'd didn't grunch and that's what I'd do.

Raise the turn. Even straightforward 4/8 players are usually licking their chops to c/r on the turn with a set or 2 pair.

raise this turn ur good more than ur fair share
if 3 bet call down

Thanks. The eek was that his bet was a big surprise to me. I expected him to check to us since I put in last raise on the flop.

So I was not sure if I should raise or not. Thus my question. He is passive. Once you know his hand it makes sense.

Thanks for the replies: I leave money on the table by not raising when I probably have the best hand. Even if one of them are on a flush draw and I lose to a flush I still should raise. SSHE discusses this. I need to be right pots odds wise not all the time. Still working on that.

If someone is on a flush draw you are getting value from them by raising the turn. They only get there around 18% of the time.

The fear of losing to a rivered flush should never be a concern. If you know they have only the flush draw you should be happy to go all in on the turn.