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Yes I know drinking = bad. But I did go $1500 - $5600 at 20/40 Bellagio in like 6-8 hours blackout drunk somehow.

But really, there are 1-2 people better than me that only play 8/16? I want to challenge them! Then again, there are probably people who if they play at the same table as me will beat me money when we are in a pot HU, but I am winning more $ at the table overall.

03-23-2017 , 03:23 AM

#902

Howard Beale

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If any of the 8-16 day game players are winning $20/hr over a reasonable time frame I will eat this computer. I'm having a tough time thinking of anyone who wins at all, tbh. I will temper that by repeating that I only play a couple days/wk w/ the occasional few hours on Friday.

ETA: Thought of a couple but still not $20/hr.

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03-23-2017 , 08:47 AM

#903

mongidig

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon_locke

It's hard to give an answer, $20 an hour is certainly doable in the 8/16; however the people that can do it will all be playing 20-40+ where games is nearly as good, often better and rake is way less, only real downside is way more variance at 20-40 and often 8-16 is better during things like hi hand promos etc....

If pope had to play 8-16 40 hours a week if guess closer to 20 than 30, if he could cherry pick games and promos then he could possibly win 30 (assuming sobriety of course).

There are enough people that play it fairly reasonable and the rake is big enough that you just can't crush it that badly

I wasn't considering the promotions. How are they these day's? Is the rake still 4 +2?

I think 14/hr is about right for the tighter nittier players. I agree most of the better players are in the 20 game. I think a good lag can make 20+. I do remember a lot of chop fests. The games usually eventually get good later in the day/night. I've played in the morning were the games can be filled with several bad regs. I imagine nights and weekends are the time to play.

03-23-2017 , 08:55 AM

#904

AlwaysFolding

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This makes me glad that I play the Omaha and not the Hold'ems. Keep it up, guys.

03-23-2017 , 09:41 AM

#905

Howard Beale

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Tighter certainly describes me but I'm not overly nitty, I think. And I'm pretty sure that I'd do better in the night games (even more action) but can't play them.

03-23-2017 , 10:50 AM

#906

rodeo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

Tighter certainly describes me but I'm not overly nitty, I think. And I'm pretty sure that I'd do better in the night games (even more action) but can't play them.

You'd be able to get your $14/hr up to $20/hr if you'd start x/r'ing flopped sets instead of donking them.

03-23-2017 , 01:21 PM

#907

pig4bill

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

A $5K chip would really be helpful bec it's going to take a long while getting that $$$ playing 15 hours/wk earning $14/hr.

Which, btw, brings up an interesting question a particular player has got me wondering: If earning ~$14/hr at 8-16 is about what can be expected (give or take) what's the motivation of a decent player whose drinks cost more than $14/hr? He'd be better off moving to LV.

Or quit drinking while he's playing. If he's boozing $14 an hour he's probably at risk for much higher costs to deal with his DWI's.

03-23-2017 , 01:31 PM

#908

AlwaysFolding

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Watching the 20/40 at the local parlor a couple months ago:

Asian gentleman versus Asian gentleman, 3 bets preflop

556 - K - 4

3 bets flop

six bets turn

bet-call river

Any guesses?

03-23-2017 , 01:51 PM

#909

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodeo

You'd be able to get your $14/hr up to $20/hr if you'd start x/r'ing flopped sets instead of donking them.

I've taken that advice and c/r the damn sets! On a serious note I really don't see how anybody can make $20+/hr over a large sample in my day game. I'm not up against any stars, I don't claim to be one myself, but I think it'd take a rare talent to do it and even then not so sure.

03-23-2017 , 01:57 PM

#910

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pig4bill

Or quit drinking while he's playing. If he's boozing $14 an hour he's probably at risk for much higher costs to deal with his DWI's.

He isn't going to stop drinking, that's a near certainty, and Talking Stick isn't going to lower their outrageous prices either. It's a damn poker room and they charge nearly nightclub prices for drinks, ffs.

Just let me be able to open a poker room a few miles away and I'd have all of the business w/i 2 months.

03-23-2017 , 03:43 PM

#911

callipygian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by that_pope

there are probably people who if they play at the same table as me will beat me money when we are in a pot HU, but I am winning more $ at the table overall.

I'm not sure how many of the 20 posts before this were serious, but of the 3-4 people I've played with who believe the quoted part, I think zero of them are correct.

03-23-2017 , 05:01 PM

#912

pig4bill

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

Oh, I thought the "he" was you. Instead of you seeing the $14 he wins as being pissed away on booze, he probably sees it as being able to drink for free because other donks are paying for it.

BTW since President Donald gave 20 billion to NASA and says they want to Mars it by 2030, you might win your bet. I still think it's a huge waste of energy and money. Even if they find something there (they won't, there's nothing there!) the transit time of the better part of a year makes it ridiculously impractical until someone invents an Epstein drive. (Hope you been watching Expanse - smart Jews on Mars!)

03-23-2017 , 06:56 PM

#913

wbatas

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

Watching the 20/40 at the local parlor a couple months ago:

Asian gentleman versus Asian gentleman, 3 bets preflop

556 - K - 4

3 bets flop

six bets turn

bet-call river

Any guesses?

78 v 23

03-23-2017 , 06:57 PM

#914

wbatas

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rodeo

You'd be able to get your $14/hr up to $20/hr if you'd start x/r'ing flopped sets instead of donking them.

Win.

03-23-2017 , 08:07 PM

#915

callipygian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wbatas

78 v 23

That wouldn't make sense in the context of the post. I think someone has AK.

03-23-2017 , 08:17 PM

#916

Howard Beale

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wbatas

Win.

Yah, it's really good advice for ppl that hit sets and that lets me out for the most part. On Tuesday there's a ticket draw promo where flushes and FH's get tickets put into the barrel. Guess how many tickets I have in the barrel on any given Tuesday.

03-23-2017 , 09:35 PM

#917

AlwaysFolding

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56, A5

56 holder was a bit spewy (bit = majorly) but I wanna know how A5 goes 6 bets here?

03-23-2017 , 09:42 PM

#918

pig4bill

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

Yeah, I was gonna make a special effort to make it to Vegas when a bunch of high hand jackpots were running. Then I found that it took a minimum of a flush to qualify, and couldn't remember the last flush or boat that I hit. I stayed home.

03-23-2017 , 10:13 PM

#919

callipygian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AlwaysFolding

I wanna know how A5 goes 6 bets here?

Some people just hate other people.

03-24-2017 , 12:41 PM

#920

wbatas

old hand

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Quote:

Originally Posted by callipygian

That wouldn't make sense in the context of the post. I think someone has AK.

Yeah, but neither does going 6 bets, but I'm a nit.

03-24-2017 , 12:45 PM

#921

AlwaysFolding

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Howard Beale

Guess how many tickets I have in the barrel on any given Tuesday.

one!

03-24-2017 , 01:26 PM

#922

Howard Beale

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I'm there for up to five drawings, usually four. Last week I told the table that if I won the drawing I'd use the entire thing as a splash pot. THAT'S how many tickets I had in the barrel.

03-24-2017 , 02:14 PM

#923

AlwaysFolding

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Howard, you never told us you're such an action player...

03-24-2017 , 02:42 PM

#924

Howard Beale

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I made a flush on the turn last session but c/folded it otr when the board paired bec the flop action had to mean that someone had flopped a set. Some other fool paid off. And there are prob quite a few who would've called just to get the ticket plus how can a flush lose? That's another reason that I never get a ticket.

03-24-2017 , 02:44 PM

#925

AlwaysFolding

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But how much did you win?

Just kidding. I know that feeling, I flopped the ace high floosh the other day and bottom two pair got there on the river with the dingy...

I was the idiot that called off a single bet

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