We move up to where they're indifferent to our 3 bets.

I've played up to 50/100 live and can confirm that I'm yet to find the level where they respect your raises.

It is impossible to move up to where someone respects your raises. The tougher the game, the more people raise. Think about a soft, live game, there almost nobody raises and 3 or 4 bets are KK+ or some uber narrow range. Think of a midstakes online game (tougher than any live game you'd ever find). Now, every pot is raised and you're seeing tons of 3 bets from in position players. At no point does anyone start "respecting" raises. That's a fantasy of small stakes players, who want their big hands to win more pots.

When I think of "respecting raises", I think of not getting cold called by 22 or A3s, versus getting three bet by AJ. In other words, I think the average micro stakes guy who whines about the players "not respecting their raises" gets more frustrated by the times that they have KK and lose to 86o, versus when they've KK and lose to AQ.

I know in a game a few weeks ago, 4 regs, a stop in TAGfish, and the guy the games are built around were doing battle in an OL 30 game. The TAGfish started berating the spot after the spot 3 bet him pre with 54s and rivered two pair to crack Queens, and the regs were quick to start trolling the TAGfish, mostly to get him to redirect his chat tilt. The TAGfish reminded me of the guy who wishes people would "respect their raises", but in actuality, the game only goes because one guy in it doesn't.

After a very bad player hit a 2 outer set to crack AA:

AA guy: you're so bad. How'd you make that call on the flop?

bad player remains silent.

AA guy: really bad dude. You need like 20:1 to call that flop bet, but you were only getting 6:1. You suck.

bad player remains silent.

Me: I thought he played it fine. 20:1? More like 2:1 dude.

AA guy: yeah, you're right.

My favorite is when you make some super standard calls, get there against the top of said person's range, and they berate you for doing so.

If I knew you had exactly AA, I'd have folded my Kings preflop, sir.

I need to play in the casinos jdr0317 plays in!

Bonus points if you successfully identify me and proceed to start asking me about close spots in your 4/8 or 10/20 game .

This should be named the Phil Hellmouth (sic) effect. Where the villain is crushed against the "hero" hand, but range vs range makes a super standard call. Then nature proves that 85% equity on the flop still leaves 15% of the time for the villain to still win. The converse of this is where the villain flops a set against hero AA, and the resulting suckout is labeled justice when the hero snags an A or nut flush on a 4 flush river. The intrepid and terrible live player always stops hand analysis on "I had AA, how could you even call?"

Bonus points?!?!?!? If I identified you in front of the whole table and got you to start talking strategy I'm sure you'd be furious haha!

I'm actually pretty easy to spot in a casino - there aren't a lot of poker-playing Colts fans - I often wonder if there are 2+2ers who say to themselves, "That's DalTXColtsFan from 2+2!" and then don't say anything .

not sure if im on a super sick heater or found the secret to success. (up a $100 this week playing micro stakes lmao so probably just a super sick heater)

But ever since I canceled my subscription to Run it once & stopped browsing forums and reading poker articles and books and started working more on the other things im good at (computers, programming languages, setting up sites and tweaking them, etc etc etc) playing only once a night after I'm done with the other stuff (and if i feel like it so some days I don't play poker at all) as well as not playing super long sessions....ever since i started this I've been having fun the times I do play. I also usually leave after I'm up a few BBs, and if i lose a few its no biggie.

After doing all this I'm finally not tilting which means I dont try to grind super long hours or feel really bad about getting sucked out on (I do realize that being on a heater means less tilt. but I've left the table a few times in the red so I like to think I'm getting better and managing it)

Anyways....of course maybe it's all due to being on a heater.. but the point is even if i begin to lose again its not my primary concern anymore.

Life is good

I find it is easy not to tilt when playing good and getting sucked out on when your really don't give a **** about the money.

Doc

So true. In playing. 05/.10 just because Bovada gave me a free $10 and I can't find any LHE on ACR and I'm playing well and having fun. Clearly the money means nothing so I'm just playing poker to kill some time.

How I wish I could have done this back in my 5/T days.

Hear the 5/T on bovada is good.

Maybe once I get the rust off.

Here's hoping that you all have a very lucky Friday the 13th.

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heads up .50/1mbtc limit holdem at a full ring table on swcpoker:

I raise 54s, big blind calls.

34Jr

he bets, I call.

5o

he bets, I raise, he 3 bets, I call.

I forget the river.

he bets, I call.

He shows A2o, but you know me, I can't complain.

Got you beat on that front. Last night I'm sitting at a NL table down a buy-in when I pick up AKs sitting with 120bb. MP raises and I 3!, villain calls. Flop comes A59 rainbow. I put in a 2/3rd'ish PSB cbet and villain calls. Turn is a blank and I put in another bet (carefully sizing to try to take his stack on the river ). He raises and we get it all in. He tables AQo and goes to the river with 3 outs.

I'll give you one guess what the river was

To be fair to villain, I've seen live players play hands like ATo like you've played it on this board texture 100+ bb deep.

I can top everyone.

Eff stacks $500, new to table active guy opens to $25 UTG, fish calls, I three ball to $105, they call.

Flop 864tt looks pretty good. I bet when checked to, to $160. Fish...calls. With like a 0.35 SPR or something. I mean really.

Turn 2. Check, I shove, he snaps and insta rolls his 53s to be nice.

I suppose we're sharing the unluckiest hands we played on Friday the 13th?

I'm up to 120bb at a FR .05/.10PLO table on Bovada and I 3-bet AKQJds from the small blind after a UTG+2 raise and HJ and BTN callers. All 3 villains flat my 3-bet.

The flop comes AK3tt. All 3 of the villains have SPRs of about 1.2 (they started the hand fairly shortstacked). I potted it. UTG+2 and HJ fold, BTN goes all in. I call and he flips over AK88.

I'll give you one guess what the turn was.

EDIT: That really was the unluckiest hand I played all day and it only cost me about 40% of a buyin - I feel like I'm breaking some sort of unwritten law of the universe here...

uh.... the case ace?

the 8 of t?

I was thinking "more likely one of his two outs than one of your 4, based on the post".

Naturally. But I'd have more than pleased with a chop in a pot where two villains flatted a pot 3-bet pre and then folded the flop.

You will not be advancing to the bonus round.

Darn, what was the prize?