You're right about both. I don't play 20/40 and I am one of those lucky idiots who always runs well

This gimmick has grown stale. You need some new shtick

For what it's worth, we can always create a dead.money post generator, which takes normal texts and injects random ALL CAPS, punctuation and lmao's

I think Jon beat you to the prototype years ago

New theory: jdr created dead.money as a means to ridicule himself for folding kings.

I've OFFERED TO PLAY ANYONE and NOBODY WILL ACCEPT, other than my pending grudge match with OTR.

SINCE everybody is in town for the WSOP we can play on WSOP.com

I'll play as small as you want with the caveat that whoever loses gets their account banned? Ill also play as big as you want

The battle of the century: dead.money vs. dead..money

wow...I'm famous!! LMAO!!!!! there's only 1! dead.money! and lets do it! impostors!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow do you live in left field...first time I've suggested you were a trust fund baby...and I BELIEVE (caps for you JRD) you when you say, you're one of those lucky idiots lmao.

Think I was around before JRD's immortal fold LMAO! (caps 4u JRD)

if ego wasn't an issue, why would you make this post:

in the mid stakes forum in contrast to your post above?

it goes against the above statement of how you're just a random 4/8 player but actually play 20/40. it seems that these two statements are mutually exclusive and a simple explanation as to why you posted them in different forums is due in part to ego being an issue.

I'd like to get back to the main theme of the thread, of bluffing.

I bluff everyone in heads up pots with different types of hands in different situations. I think saying "bluff these guys over here but not those guys over there" is much too general.

re: the posting in position vs. posting out of position, let's take a simple example in terms of bb/100 and fill in the variables.

let,

bb=bbwr
sb=sbwr
bu=buwr
coP=cowr with post

what has to be true for dead.money's point to be correct is that EV of

bb+sb+bu<coP

so let's break each down assuming 1/2 or 2/4 chip structures and a solid 1.5bb win rate.

on average, bb is usually around -.25bb. sb is around -0.15bb and bu can range a lot depending on skill, game type etc. but in general the bu is worth around a bit more than a third of a bb with the co (nonpost) being worth around 0.3 bb. there's a gain each position and if you sum every position up, you should reach your 1.5bb solid win rate, including blind losses.

coP though automatically loses 100% of the sb, which is 1/4 of a bb. so it starts out as -.25. it then has it's standard earning of +0.3 but it gives up also it's -0.50 bb for the post. there's one change here though, which is the co gets to play many more hands profitably b/c it's already got a full small bet in the pot. so it's EV goes up to around probably 0.4ish. you can think of this as "playing it's bb back" or "playing for part of it's bb back"

so that leaves -0.25+0.4-0.50 = -0.35 as the coP result

adding up bb+sb+bu = -0.25-0.15+0.38ish = -0.02 combined

so the difference here is pretty stark and would hold up roundly regardless of assumptions made about win rates as long as we're talking about a winning player. NOTE: if we're talking about a LOSING player then we have to redo the analysis.

one big variable is, fittingly lol, that the dead money posted in the CO matters a LOT b/c you have no means of making that go from -0.25 to -0.15 through playing your small blind correctly. it's just posted dead so you only can play back part of your bb, which does help in position to the tune of about 1/3 of the value of the position itself (0.10 on a 0.30bb position value). but it can't overcome posting BOTH the small blind dead and the bb live while also missing the button.

the two main factors given this analysis are:

1. being able to play back some of your post as a live blind makes a big difference, and
2. missing the button when playing makes a big difference.

as a result, it should be conclusively clear that deadmoney's post is either a troll gone wrong or somebody who hasn't fully thought through the simple example given the vast amt of data out there and the 8 year old algebra needed to set up the word problem.

I don't really understand your point, but the guy who posted the comment you quoted here was not the same as OP. OP here is "dead.money". The other guy is "dead..money" who I think one of the higher stakes players made as a fake user to troll this guy.

I'm just a 4-8 player, the ego maniac with the clever name is the 20-40 trust fund player

I don't think that's it at all. One 4/8, and one 20/40 peep. I think I have double-vision and am able to see everything with it! My eyes are on everything now and seeing it all in a new light.

i call foul